1. I am not aware of the existence in Hebrew of "langue" and "parole".
2. It is crystal clear that "There is no "gemination" in spoken
Hebrew". Why not? Because it is not needed.
2. I have never heard any spoken distinction between: -yamim (no
gemination), days (Gn 4:3) and -yammim (gemination), seas (Ps 8:9).
3. You are right all these claims are merely "well-grounded
traditions (TRADITIONS!) within the Hebrew grammar".
4. I am still waiting to see a good "proof", within the Hebrew
language, for an earlier existence of this spoken "gemination" (no
Arabic, please).
5. There is nothing academic about the Hebrew "Academy". It is a
Rabbinical institution.
Isaac Fried, Boston University
On Oct 29, 2010, at 1:24 AM, Pere Porta wrote:
(Isaac Fried)
It does not exist in Hebrew. I never "geminate" anything, and I
have never heard other Hebrew speakers "geminate" anything. For what?
(Pere Porta)
We should carefully distingish, Isaac, between the "langue" and the
"parole" (Saussure). The theory of the language and the practice of
this language in everyday people's lives.
Why do you say that gemination (dagesh) does not exist in Hebrew?
Because you never "geminate" anything?
You'll at least agree with me that there is a great difference
between:
-yamim (no gemination), days (Gn 4:3)
and
-yammim (gemination), seas (Ps 8:9)
between:
-kanim (no gemination), reeds (Ex 25:32)
and
-kannim (gemination), pedestals (not in the Bible). This is the
plural of 'ken' (1K 7:31).
You often seem, Isaac, to be against many well-grounded traditions
within the Hebrew grammar...
When you show your opposition to a given (language or grammar)
"custom", you should always CAREFULLY justify this opposition by
reasonning it, by bringing some examples in support of your
position, and so on...
Some days ago you made a quite disrespectful statement towards the
Academy of the Hebrew Language. And I cannot accept this.
I'm not a list Moderator, but.... please: either stop your often
repeated opposition (to this and to that and that...) or...
CAREFULLY JUSTIFY IT!
Pere Porta
(Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain)
(Yigal Levin)
The phenomenon of doubling ("gemination") consonants exists in all
Semitic languages.
--
Pere Porta
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