(Steve Miller) > > Thanks Donald. I was going to contact the maker of my verb table to see if > that was an error, but now I see that it's not an error. > > It seemed like it was an error to me because Hab 3:16 is the 1 and only > instance (according to BibleWorks) of a 1cp accusative suffix on an > imperfect verb that has a dagesh in the nun. With only 1 instance, wouldn't > it be more likely to be either a mistake in the points, or maybe the > accusative suffix is actually 3ms, as translated by some? > > ______
It is alike that the instance in Hb 3:16 isn't but a literal copy, by mimetism, of the same word that appears in Gn 49:19. In a general way, it is quite true that the third person singular masculine -nu has dagesh while the first person (common) plural -nu lacks it. Now..... there are exceptions. Look here www.oham.net/out/S-t/S-t1700p.html Also compare (WRENW, our skin (Lm 5:10) with (WDENNW, still he/him (Gn 28:22) ----> -NW (our) versus -NNW (he, him, his) Heartly, Pere Porta (Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain) > -----Original Message----- > > From: Donald R. Vance, Ph.D. Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 10:28 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Cc: 'Pere Porta'; [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Plural Pronomial Suffixes used in a Singular > sense > > > > Not true. The nun energicum occurs with the 1st common plural accusative > suffix > > as well: Habakkuk 3:16 On Nov 8, 2010, at 5:44 AM, Steve Miller wrote: > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Pere Porta > > >> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:29 AM > > >> To: Joseph Roberts > > >> Cc: [email protected] > > >> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Plural Pronomial Suffixes used in a Singular > > >> sense > > >> > > >>> > > >>> (JR) I was reading about translations surrounding Genesis 3:15. It > > >>> was interesting to note that though many translate a portion of the > > >>> verse as "it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his > > >>> heel." the verb "tesuphenu" > > >>> has the first person plural ending yet it is translated as third > > >>> person singular. Is this a theological leaning or sometimes can a > > >>> plural ending be used in a singular sense? > > >>> Joseph Roberts > > >> > > >> > > >> __________ > > >> > > >> Compare, Joseph, the following two patterns: > > >> > > >> http://www.oham.net/out/PS-t/PS-t1996.html > > >> and > > >> http://www.oham.net/out/PS-t/PS-t1995p.html > > >> > > >> Do you see some difference between them? > > >> > > >> Remark: when -nu = -hu = him/it, then the nun has dagesh, while when > > >> -nu = > > > us, > > >> then it lacks it. > > >> > > >> Pere Porta > > >> (Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain) > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > [Steve Miller] Thanks Pere. You are correct. My verb table program > > > erroneously shows a dagesh for both for this particular verb. > > > -Steve Miller > > > Detroit > > _______________________________________________ > b-hebrew mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-hebrew > -- Pere Porta "Ei nekrói ouk eguéirontai, fágomen kai píomen áurion gar apothnéskomen" (1Cor 15:32) _______________________________________________ b-hebrew mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-hebrew
