> From: Paul Zellmer Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 8:06 AM > > Steve, > > I was trying to return the thread back to Kenneth's original proposal, so I decided > not to list the few documents in which the marginal reading was found. I listed the > LXX because that was apparently on the path that the standard modern translation > took. But you're right, the specific sources listed by BHS were DSS fragments.
[Steve Miller] Thanks Paul. Maybe you could help me understand what my BHS (1997) means here. It lists a caaru reading and a caru reading from "Edd", which is "editions textus Hebraici secundum Kennicott, de Rossi et Ginsburg cf Ms(s)". I thought these were MT manuscripts. Are these actually DSS? My BHS uses a fancy shaped Q for the DSS, but it does not give that symbol for Ps 22:17. I knew of the 2 DSS fragments from "The Dead Sea Scrolls Bible" and from discussions on this list. Also "The Dead Sea Scrolls Bible" says that some MT mss support caru. > > As for כארי, it may not make any sense to us to translate it "like a lion," > but it must have meant something to scribes who passed on the document. > Otherwise, wouldn't we have found a qere here? Or do you have another proposal > why this is the form found in the overwhelming majority of sources? [Steve Miller] I don't think it is meaningful to say that cari is found in the overwhelming majority of sources. It is more meaningful to say that it is found in the overwhelming majority of the MT sources (or maybe it is all the MT sources), but LXX and DSS support caru. The MT sources are not independent, but were unified by the Masoretes. So just about any MT reading would be found in the overwhelming majority of MT sources. When both LXX and DSS agree on a reading, that is strong evidence to me that it is the correct one. In this case there is even more witness because the 2 DSS fragments are independent, caaru being from Nahal Hever, and caru from Qumram. When I say "like a lion" does not make sense, it is because the sentence needs a verb. It does not make absolutely no sense. The Massoretes may have guessed that they could add their own verb as JPS does, "like a lion <they are at> my hands and my feet", which should be avoided. -Steve Miller Detroit > > Paul Zellmer > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Miller [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 9:09 PM > To: 'Paul Zellmer' > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] crackpot idea psalm 22 > > Paul, > The word appears in 2 separate DSS fragments. One says כארו and the other כר > with the fragment ending after the resh. > > Additionally, I don't think "like a lion my hands and my feet" makes sense. > > Sincerely, > -Steve Miller > Detroit > www.voiceInWilderness.info > No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. > His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life. - Albert > Einstein (1879-1955) _______________________________________________ b-hebrew mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-hebrew
