Jim:

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:01 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

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> A majority of scholars have followed Karl’s traditional view.  …
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Whether any scholars follow it is irrelevant.

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> “The second element in the messenger’s prenatal characterization of Ishmael 
> [at Genesis 16: 12] is similarly ambiguous.  Most interpreters think the 
> narrator wishes to portray Ishmael and his descendants as people of conflict, 
> and thus they render the phrase something like ‘his hand against everyone and 
> everyone’s hand against him’…
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It is not a matter of thinking or wishing, rather what does the phase mean?


> In four of the remaining six cases, the sense is one of assistance, and 
> ‘hand’ is the object of ‘strengthen’ or ‘hold’ (the pi(el or hip(il of hazaq, 
> as in Gen 21:8
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Not found in Genesis 21:8.


>  and 1 Sam 23:16
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I mentioned this as an example of being careful, as this is not an example
of the phrase for other reasons.


> ), ‘rest’ (nux, as in Isa 25:10
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Look at the context, i.e. read the whole chapter.


> ), or ‘touch’ (naga, as in Dan 10:10
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This is a different sentence structure, not an example of the phrase.

The rest of the quote gives no examples to back up his claims.

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> Jim Stinehart
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> Evanston, Illinois
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Absent any examples to contradict it, the phrase YD B- indicates warfare.
This does not mean constant warfare, rather that warfare against all will
happen. And has that not happened?

Karl W. Randolph.
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