From: Rolf 
To: Ishnian ; [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 1:05 AM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] ] A VISUAL EXPRESSION OF A THEOLOGICAL IDEA OF 
THESKY/HEAVEN ( Rolf's Response 4)


Dear George,

I do not want to discuss the age of the earth. My words were that the creation 
of the earth is undated in the text, and therefore the text does not contradict 
the ages given by different scientists. My point was that the creation account 
do not start with chaos, and that the words of Genesis 1:1-2 are not mythical, 
but they accord with modern science.  I will say that the same is true for the 
whole creation account in Genesis 1 and 2. it can be given an interpretation 
that accords with scientific finds, and no part of it needs to be mythical.

There is one exception, though. The creation by God is a metaphysical 
proposition, and metaphysics is a priori excluded in a scientific explanation. 
If theologicans follow this stirct scientific principle, the creation must be 
viewed as mythological before we start examining it.

I am aware that b-hebrew primarily is a forum for the discussion of the Hebrew 
text and its meaning. And a discussion of the creation account in Genesis 1 and 
2 with the question whether it is mythical or not, should of course be centered 
around the meaning of the Hebrew words.


Best regards,


Rolf Furuli
Stavern
Norway




Best regards,


Rolf Furuli
Stavern
Norway



Onsdag 5. September 2012 22:53 CEST skrev George Athas 
<[email protected]>:


  Let's avoid getting into discussions of science and the age of the earth 
here. B-Hebrew isn't a forum for that discussion, interesting though it is.

  Ishinan, I think you've slightly misunderstood Jerry's post. He is arguing 
that Gen 1 specifically envisions a situation of chaos/disorder/vacuum (תהו 
ובהו) from which God creates an orderly universe. This is not to deny that 
there are other texts in the Hebrew Bible that see a creatio ex nihilo, but Gen 
1 may not be one of those texts.


  GEORGE ATHAS
  Dean of Research,
  Moore Theological College (moore.edu.au)
  Sydney, Australia




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