isaac,

On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 00:41:30 -0500, Isaac Fried wrote
>>>> You mean the minister did not trust Joseph with his meals being afraid of 
>>>> being poisoned by the wife or by the boy?

once more i fail to trace the logic here. egyptian rulers did not trust ANYBODY 
with their meals. and they tended to 
kill the cooks (and antbody else) for the smallest suspicion every now and 
then. this is suggested 
in genesis, and (i imagine) can be verified by the historians.

>>> The question here is first of all who is the הוא HU doing the eating.

this is my reading of this text. it describes joseph's authority granted to him 
by the minister. 
clearly the phrase in question states that this power of authority included all 
THE MINISTER'S internal affairs...
i hope so far you agree. observe that the term "all his internal affairs" must 
be exaggerated, as stories always
tend to simplify things. it is quite possible that in reality joseph was 
 
...except THE MINISTER'S own meal!! indeed,

1) it would be overly naive to leave this inspection with a foreigner, and 
second in command, who may have 
all the motives to poison his boss.

2) it would make no sense the minister inspecting JOSEPH's meal - if he wanted 
to poisen joseph a simple
execution would do. so, "he" cannot be joseph.

observe that joseph's reply is of identical pattern, except that THE MINISTER's 
meal is replaced 
with THE MINISTER's wife. the didactical point of doing so is to dissociate 
joseph (and his power of 
authority) from the woman.

in the second phrase the wife is clearly THE MINISTER's. by analogy, it makes 
sense to assume that 
in the first phrase the meal is also THE MINISTER's.

nir cohen

> 
> Isaac Fried, Boston University
> 
> On Dec 9, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Nir cohen - Prof. Mat. wrote:
> 
> 
> לא ידע אתו מאומה כי אם הלחם אשר 
> הוא או 
> confided to him all but the food which he was eating. 
> [but clearly not confiding his meals with the second of command...] 
> 
>

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