That data is almost certainly freely available. Most of the US government
departments have to make their materials freely available to Americans, NASA
footage etc is also public domain. 

Although you are probably not an American citizen in any shape or form, I
suspect you would have no problem using the data. The CIA world factbook is
also public domain if you wished to provide some info per country.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Hurst
Sent: 27 May 2005 23:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [backstage] World Coordinates - Finally Available.

I'm curious about the availability of this data. I have been using what I
guess is siimlar data found from starting out at

http://geonames.usgs.gov/

and to save you all the navigation (though it is worth it as there is lots
of
data here), grab the file from

http://earth-info.nga.mil/gns/html/cntry_files.html 

(i.e. the single compressed file)

which as far as I can tell is still freely available and what is more, 
maintained. It is some effort to deal with as there are many locations
with multiple names (you need to test for equality of coordinates to
determine that Tokyo is another name for Edo for example).

It has 5MM lines in it, of which about 3MM are populated places (PPL
designations).

Is this basically the same data?

I've been working on an in memory representation of this data with the goal
of being able to serve as a knowledge resource for location understanding
in text as well as for the general task of looking up places near to some
position.

Anyway - if anyone has clarification of the 'freeness' of this data,
I'd be interested
to hear about it.

Matt Hurst
Senior Research Scientist
Intelliseek, Inc,
BlogPulse: www.blogpulse.com

On 5/25/05, David Tattersall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
> Hi, 
>   
> This looks like a very good find - a possible future idea could be getting
> bbc's forecasts and placing the appropriate weather symbols on a google
map
> (for those who can't quite get the new 3d maps!) 
>   
> If the bbc's RSS feed doesn't include lat/long (although the weather web
> site does so perhaps the database isn't needed) then this set of figures
> could come in useful. 
>   
> ps - new here :) I love the idea behind this. Keep up the good work. 
> 
>  
>  ________________________________
>  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kosso
> Sent: 25 May 2005 4:09
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [backstage] World Coordinates - Finally Available.
> 
>  
> i'll get this lot into a MySqldb later;)
> 
> good find!!
> 
> 
> 
>  
> On 5/25/05, Therion Ware <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > 
> > Hi
> > 
> > - Finally there. The database of all world cities can be found at:
> > 
> > http://video.s-vid.com/~admin/geog/world.zip
> > 
> > The file is in CSV format, of the form: 
> > 
> > iName   cName   CityName        AdminDistrict   LatLong
> > Africa / Middle East    Tanzania        Musasa  Tanzania
> (General)
> > 003:21:00S031:33:00E
> > 
> > About 24Mb. Unzips to about 193Mb.
> > 
> > And includes the United States, which after much looking around, I
> > found - would that it were so easy to loose in real life...!
> > 
> > There's 2,410,343 entries, and it's only population centres. There's
> > another 2 million or so  sea mounts, geographical features and so on
> > omitted. If you really need these, let me know, and I'll see.
> > 
> > I was thinking of setting up a MySQL backend that allows an HTTP 
> > request where you specify a lat and long, and get back the nearest
> > place. If that'd be of use let me know here.
> > 
> > As I originally said, I got the data free from the US geographical
> > survey back when they didn't charge for these things. What's amusing 
> > is that Vietnam constitutes a unique region (Col 1). Presumably that
> > reflects the spirit of the them times to us today through inertia!
> > 
> > Oh - another thing: projecting these coordinates on to a graphic map
> > is *not* a trivial thing for lots of different reasons. Spherical
> > coordinates in relation to your map image and all that...
> > 
> > Anyway, have fun, and sniff, if you use them, think about crediting me
> > as in www.video2cd.co.uk as the source seeing as these days it'd cost
> > you money to get them!
> > 
> > Best,
> > TW
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > www.video2cd.co.uk <--- blatant self publicity
> > and unsubtle effort to flog stuff...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
>



                
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