----- Original Message ----- From: "Wrigley, Ave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Can I solicit your collective opinion on the following? I am thinking of
ways of making this code available without getting into licencing
issues.

Well since you asked ;)
I'm unsure, although i'm guessing that there aren't any actual lawyers here anyway.

Isn't the problem that you are providing a means to copy/convert a specific proprierty format (RealNetworks) that is expressly provided for a fixed period of access (BBC 7 days listen again). In otherwords providing the means to allow users to infringe copyright and circumnavigate copy protection.

Whilst making it generic might side step specifics, personaly i'd be rather concerned with releasing such an application in the current climate of copyright infringment, pirating and distribution. As if I remember correctly some of the P2P networks were recently found guilty or at least compicit with providng a means to distribute illegal files, even though that was not necessarily their intended purpose.

Simply pointing out that there are exisitng (commerical) products that perform the same function doesn't free yourself from personal liability if it ever got to that stage.

Its a shame, it would be a great tool but until media companies/owners finally join the 21st century with regards to copyright and performance rights it will always be somewhat of effiy subject.

I would have thought there would have been a BBC representive here who would have commited specifically on the problem your facing (having written some cool tech and wanting to release it but being unsure of the legal implications), but I don't remember seeing any replies. Since you work at ITN isn't it possible to tap into their sources, they must have a legal team somewhere?

Ultimately I guess you'll have to ask yourself is it worth the potential hassle releasing it here.


Ps. Calling it something else might also help ;-)

lol - reminds me of the Lentilla (578 million) clone problem in Douglas Adms HHGTG.
Roughly paraphrased (and as such not as funny) as

Due to a malfunction with a cloning machine, it got out of sync and started a new clone half way through completely the previous. To the extent that turnging it off would be murder. This problem first tax the minds of cloning engineers, then the priests and final of the lawyers who experientment vainly with re-defining murder, re-evaluaitng it and final re-spelling it in the hope that no-one noticed.


Noisecrime 2005
http://www.noisecrime.com


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