How about cutting to the chase and opening a BBC Tube? 
Or at least positively listing all source data freely available from the BBC, including feeds that are under future legal construction, or waiting licensing agreement in the corridors of power?

Surely the major role of the BBC now is to deliver its content to the world, freely, or under subscription.
If, we the audience and techie contributors can access the original content, then the market will do the rest for you.
It is perhaps an extreme idea, but part of the charter says: 

"The Corporation shall apply the whole of its income solely in promoting its objects."......
"To establish and maintain libraries and archives containing material relevant to the objects of the Corporation, and to make available to the public such libraries and archives with or without charge."

I'm looking forward to the discussion of how, but after so long Backstage needs to recognise that, for example, the BBC TV channel content/data is not available for me, or anyone, to "Build what you want using BBC content" even on a non-commercial basis. If it was, I would already be sitting here watching Auntie's golden live stream or library, even subscribed due to contractual issues. Just like the weather feeds..... apologies for dragging it up again.

I began, in internet terms, reading and watching the BBC daily about 1993, then I listened to the radio, now I would love to join the viewers officially, whilst still enjoying the other two, all on one screen. Sadly, the longer I respect the BBC's web evolution, the more content I am locked out of when abroad, even in the International version. From every side of the site I am now censored from certain public areas whilst using a foreign IP address. I understand copyright issues well, but what is the point for the future in this censorship? A day has to arrive when the BBC moves forward openly, instead of as now, otherwise it may well be beyond your control. As the music business model has shown you. 

Even in the UK, I can read loads about Dr Who, the new series, I can even see 46 seconds of terrible sounding promo..... but the actual show is missing. So, if I miss an episode on TV, I either find someone who has recorded it, or I wait for the DVD's..... if I am still excited when they come out. (As a new show, this should be beyond the antiquated copyright contracts of old....... or no one is taking any notice in the legal department.)

Anyway, I can, for the moment, now go and watch my TV favourites with the mp4 brigade, if you get my drift. I do think that the distribution model has irreversibly changed. I think all of us, given the choice, would RSS the data including live radio and TV on our desktops right now. Yes, the vidcasts are getting there....... but the future will be incredible when we can effectively choose when and where to consume everything the BBC has ever produced, in a much superior quality than is available through the newsplayer. Note, the BBC America video player is amazing in comparison, even the quality of video through the real player for UK content is pretty awful.
Accepted, it is a big step.... but one that is here.

Wow, $1.6 billion, now that is a result. How many servers could that buy......... BBC Commercial World Net Service anyone, including live and uncensored BBC TV Channels?
Call me insane, but this is pretty much the most important internet based BBC development on the horizon for me, Please excuse me if this is outside the bounds of backstage discussion.



Richard Edwards
 

On 11 Oct 2006, at 21:41, Clare OLeary wrote:

hi
that sounds like a cool idea, instead of what programmers say people want, get it straight from the audience.
a txt voting scheme for best ideas could be integrated into the online thing too - this could also have niche interest areas catered for in some kind of self selective process...for cool mobile realtime solutions seesee www.txtstation.com
 
clare o'leary
 
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How about some sort of matching service between people with the ideas and the people with a knowhow to implement them.

You could for example open up the ideas section to more main stream sections of the bbc audience a kind of 'tell us what you want suggestion service'. Then based on that you put the best ideas to a public online vote. (giving some indication of demand)

The final stage would be to make them happen by getting teams of techies involved (building a team based on the required skills).

I know backstage does much of this already but it think the concept of voting for ideas and putting togther teams to build them would be a good addition.

thoughts ??


On 10/11/06, Gordon Joly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 15:55 +0100 10/10/06, Mr I Forrester wrote:
>Gordon Joly wrote:
>
>>At 18:37 +0100 5/10/06, Brian Butterworth wrote:
>>>Perhaps there should be a 'tech' and 'no-tech' version of the site.
>>>
>>
>>You mean like "us and them"?
>>
>>Gordo
>>
>
>That's certainly something we are trying to get away from - us and them.
>
>There's a gradient of abilities and goals for people when it comes
>to Backstage.


And real life?


>For example, there are people who want to put relevant news on the
>side panel of there site and some people who just want to read the
>latest news in Chinese on there Blackberry. You could say the first
>one is more easy than the second one but does it really matter? From
>our point of view, they are both looking to use BBC content in a way
>we may not have considered. Who knows, a prototype which takes
>Chinese feeds and coverts them to a format which is easily
>digestible on Blackberry might hit a large audience which we never
>knew existed before.
>
>That's the joy of backstage :)
>
>Cheers,
>
>Ian
>


And the Joy of Lex!

Gordo

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