We'll have a look at that, ta.
D. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Lockwood
> Sent: 12 October 2006 10:51
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [backstage] Radio 1 SMS cloud
> 
> The cloud works fine (although my point of view about clouds 
> is that they're whizzy for whizzy's sake and 99% of the time 
> serve no useful
> purpose) - but the page throws 4 JavaScript errors before it renders.
> (IE6 on Win XP Pro)  I'm sure that this is only a problem for 
> people who have "Show all JavaScript errors" switched on - 
> but it *is* a problem and should really have been ironed out 
> before launch...
> 
> (The BBC Radio Player has a similar problem)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rich.
> 
> On 10/12/06, Daniel Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That cloud looks really great!
> >
> > Have you looked at the tools section on Digg.com ?
> > There are some interesting similar live-visuals there.
> >
> >
> > Daniel Morris | Web Developer
> > BBC Entertainment : Manchester : New Media
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > int.   01 44217
> > ext.  0161 244 4217
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Tristan Ferne
> > > Sent: 12 October 2006 09:23
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: [backstage] Radio 1 SMS cloud
> > >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > Ian's just posted something on the backstage blog about 
> this but I 
> > > thought I'd point it out here as well. The Radio 1 site has just 
> > > been redesigned and includes something that we think is 
> quite cool. 
> > > At the bottom of the page is a panel showing a tag cloud created 
> > > from all the incoming text messages to Radio 1 which changes in 
> > > almost real time. We think it provides a good 
> representation of the 
> > > live-ness of radio and the feedback from the audience. I'm also 
> > > hoping to get some feeds of these words onto backstage but it may 
> > > take a while.
> > >
> > > I've written more here:
> > > http://cookinrelaxin.blogspot.com/2006/10/text-radio-watch-it-
> > > grow.html.
> > > And Chris, the developer who worked on it, has written 
> something here:
> > > http://fridayforward.com/2006/10/telling-you-what-youre-tellin
> > > g-us-in.ht
> > > ml
> > >
> > > We are having some technical teething troubles, particularly for 
> > > people at work who access it through firewalls, so if you 
> notice any 
> > > problems with the cloud then please email me off list.
> > >
> > > Tristan
> > >
> > > -----------------------------
> > > Tristan Ferne
> > > Senior Development Producer (R&D)
> > > BBC Radio & Music Interactive
> > > 020 776 50322
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard P 
> > > > Edwards
> > > > Sent: 09 October 2006 16:44
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: [backstage] Suddenly Everything's Coming up
> > > Widgets and
> > > > Competitions.
> > > >
> > > > Or go check out the offices and studios down at BBC radio,
> > > they have
> > > > Macs.
> > > > Back to the point though.......
> > > > It seems to me, in most fields of the net, that simply put
> > > I have the
> > > > following basic uses....
> > > > 1. Communication, in and out. (Email, MSN, iChats, etc.) 2.
> > > > Research..... learning and storing data, either locally of
> > > through the
> > > > web. Keeps me using my brain, or not as the case may be. A
> > > support to
> > > > my failed memory.
> > > > 3. Entertainment.... which includes all the above.
> > > >
> > > > The BBC provides a lot of content for my life today, my 
> research 
> > > > of yesterday, and my "surfing" the future.
> > > > The next question therefore is whether I choose what I
> > > want, or they
> > > > choose it for me?...... for example, I happen to like Jonathan 
> > > > Ross and F1..... so I would love a widget that sends me
> > > everything that the
> > > > BBC makes including him or that sport.... like every Friday
> > > it would
> > > > ask me if I wanted to watch, if I accept, it plays the show
> > > live, if I
> > > > don't.... it gives me the ability to go straight to a 
> "watch again"
> > > > during the following week.
> > > > Same with his radio show. But the interesting bit is that every 
> > > > now and then it sends me information of other things 
> that Mr Ross 
> > > > is up to, which I wouldn't find in a month of Sundays on my 
> > > > own...... now that would be exciting.
> > > > That could be possible for every "subject" that the BBC 
> produces. 
> > > > I then get to produce my own "BBC1" but through a widget that
> > > shows all
> > > > the content of that one subject on my desktop when I decide
> > > to use it.
> > > >
> > > > Included in this example, the widget would take the list of
> > > previous
> > > > stories, connected to a subject, a step further on the News
> > > site. By
> > > > actually reminding me when a story that I have shown 
> interest in 
> > > > during the past is updated. It would be great to
> > > selectively RSS the
> > > > future over the complete net, or just the BBC, but choose
> > > the confines
> > > > of the subject matter. For you guys in the programming 
> world, the 
> > > > widget in my mind should never have to open a third party
> > > web browser
> > > > in order to display any content...... after all, that is
> > > pretty much
> > > > what the equipment/software manufacturers want us to live
> > > under.... so
> > > > why not pre-empt it a little, and keep the choice for the
> > > user. Then
> > > > my licensed BBC widget acts as a DRM for the content that I
> > > decide to
> > > > use, or listen to, or watch..... the widget could 
> incorporate the 
> > > > media player, but with editable channels so I could 
> also disregard 
> > > > shows or DJ's that I never listen to, or never want to 
> listen to.
> > > >
> > > > Simply put... the BBC can then, with a clear understanding, 
> > > > deliver content to me on my phone, my car radio, my TV and my
> > > computer with no
> > > > copyright problems because the agreement between us is 
> made when I 
> > > > choose that subject, and you guys get to use all of my 
> usage data.
> > > > All in a tiny package that loads in a second with a lot less 
> > > > "brain candy" or mouse clicks/decisions.
> > > >
> > > > Apologies if this goes further than needed. For me this 
> would kill 
> > > > five birds, all with one stone.
> > > > I can't build it, but I will happily copyright the idea.
> > > >
> > > > RichE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 9 Oct 2006, at 14:47, Matthew Cashmore wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I know what you mean about useful widgets... Certainly when I 
> > > > > was using Mac OS X there was a great Listen Again BBC Radio
> > > > widget... But
> > > > > alas, now I'm back in the BBC... and therefore on a 
> PC, and thus 
> > > > > Konfa...
> > > > > Sorry I mean Yahoo! Widgets there's no widget that does
> > > > anything other
> > > > > than lists the live feeds... Time to break out my Yahoo!
> > > > > development kit
> > > > > I think...
> > > > >
> > > > > m
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Richard P 
> > > > > Edwards
> > > > > Sent: 09 October 2006 14:16
> > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > Subject: Re: [backstage] Suddenly Everything's Coming 
> up Widgets
> > > > >
> > > > > Personally, I can't wait until the web breaks free of
> > > web-browsers,
> > > > > but I don't think that widgets alone are the answer.....
> > > > although the
> > > > > application does take note of the fact that all of us enjoy
> > > > toasters
> > > > > that make toast, and irons that iron, if you get my
> > > meaning. I have
> > > > > been trying to find a useful widget since Mac OS-X came
> > > out, I find
> > > > > the web-cams and live weather radar shots to be the biggest
> > > > reason for
> > > > > me to switch the screen.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have no idea whether any of the BBC radio widgets work
> > > any better
> > > > > now, I gave up using them about a year ago.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am also really looking forward to the BBC doing a
> > > "watch again"
> > > > > in the
> > > > > same way that their radio programmes are available. After
> > > > the success
> > > > > of You-tube, this has to be a certainty to keep up with
> > > the future.
> > > > > (Legalities allowing.)
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm intrigued by the "new apparent trend" in data
> > > > manipulation. It was
> > > > > noted over the weekend that Google video are changing 
> the viewer 
> > > > > counts to put certain videos further down the list.......
> > > > the opposite
> > > > > to natural selection, I suppose, although of course, 
> there are 
> > > > > no facts to support this. Allegedly.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9 Oct 2006, at 12:59, Ian Forrester wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> A interesting piece by Om Malik for Business 2.0 [1] on
> > > > the state of
> > > > >> widgets
> > > > >> ---
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "Breaking down the Web into small, portable pieces is the
> > > > smart trend
> > > > >> that everyone from Nokia to Google is betting on."
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Then he follows up with a short post on GigaOM [2]
> > > > >>
> > > > >> What do others feel about the future of widgets? Like I
> > > mentioned
> > > > >> before Opera are keen on the idea of mobile Widgets, but
> > > > have yet to
> > > > >> show there hand except for in the desktop market [3].
> > > While Nokia
> > > > >> just
> > > > >
> > > > >> got in on the act and launched widsets [4].
> > > > >>
> > > > >> [1] - 
> > > > >> http://money.cnn.com/magazines/business2/business2_archive/
> > > > >> 2006/09/01/8384338/
> > > > >> [2] - 
> http://software.gigaom.com/2006/09/11/its-a-widget-world/
> > > > >> [3] - http://widgets.opera.com/ [4] - https://www.widsets.com
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk
> > > > >>
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