Hi In the spirit of 'play', check out Stray Cinema,which is a short film shot in London by a kiwi, then uploaded to the web - you can download it and remix it and add 20% of your own original content - its kind of an experiment and all based on the Creative Commons licence as well as in the spirit of collaborative content sharing just to see what happens. check it out at www.straycinema.com and www.creativecommons.org of course...
clare www.evebaystudio.co.nz -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard P Edwards Sent: Thursday, 30 November 2006 5:30 a.m. To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [backstage] Psiphon & Next Gen content Ian, As a geriatric, I am pleased to be 3rd Generation, with a hint of 4th !! I'm looking forward to real virtual reality as well, been waiting since 1987.... although Second Life isn't up my street..... but an interactive band on youtube is...... so my vision is very different from the norm. I am happy to see it all as binary code, so there is no difference between anyone telling me the news, from the radio,TV,web-site, or my neighbour. The big difference is that now I have so much choice that I struggle to decide what is actually important or worth my time. I am therefore influenced by what I feel is good, and I respect the BBC and it's quality. I don't know who makes what, or whether one show is more expensive than another, but you can be sure that my experience makes for very quick choices..... so yes, I will record a great show to DVD just to get rid of the ad breaks. Can you tell me, why is mixing BBC content with some dance tune bad? If I can pay for that content and people like the mashup, then I am not hurting anyone..... sadly at this moment I am unable to license that content........ but that doesn't make it bad...... if every cameraman owned the footage he shot, then most programs could not be edited and aired, as a similar example. I must say that I get pretty frustrated with "old world" legal problems always affecting new ways to use the content as I would like, in my case I can do just about all of it, but I choose to stay within the law..... I can though, understand completely why others don't in these cases. Even as far back as the 80's people were stealing loops and using them to make new songs..... the new generations are capable of "borrowing" from all digital sources, and sometimes they actually win..... Youtube is perhaps a case in point, where once again the writs will fly after the event. Just like Google's project to copy books..... the idea has no negatives, but the "how" it is paid for is unknown or just way too complicated and expensive to do. What a great time to be around to use it all, given legal access......... On 29 Nov 2006, at 10:56, Ian Forrester wrote: > I keep meaning to draw this out and post it on my blog > > --- my own thoughts on TV generations --- > > 1st generation - Mainstream > TV watchers, Tend to be stuck to the Broadcast Schedule, will get > home to watch a certain thing, will see lots of adverts etc. Will > tend to have Cable, Sky or Free view > > 2nd generation - Tape it for later > They tend to watch live events, browse TV and tape/vivo/record > everything they watch a lot (such as shows). They skip adverts but > still see them. Still aware of the Broadcast Schedule and > subscribes to Sky or Cable > > 3rd generation - On Demand > Completely off the schedule, no idea which channel things come from > or what time there on. Rely on friends recommendations or social > networks to tell what's on. Owns a laptop or has a computer device > (such as xbox) setup with there TV. Tends not to browse TV and does > not subscribe to Sky or Cable but watches a lot of TV > > 4th generation - There is no spoon > Same as 3rd generation but sees all content as remixable and > shareable. Can't understand why mixing bbc content with some dance > tune is bad. Uploads content to online sites and shares a lot for > social capital. May not even own a TV but has access to a large > connection > > Obviously there's stages between the generations, like someone who > watches everything on demand but also tunes in for Torchwood every > week (what day is it on again?) > > :) > > Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || x83965 > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luke Dicken > Sent: 28 November 2006 21:33 > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [backstage] Psiphon & Next Gen content > >> Yes, actually most kids my sons age - 20 ish don't watch tv at all. >> They might watch YouTube occassionally but mostly they are either >> watching DVD's on their wide screen laptops, or creating their own >> content with digi-cams, photoshop artwork, websites or generally out >> and about > > Speaking as someone in this age-group (although possibly atypical > given my tech background), its not that we don't watch TV, its just > that TV programs aren't good enough to keep our interest. My > flatmate makes time for Torchwood each week - I have a habit of > forgetting its on so end up either setting our TV up to record it, > then watch it later, or I pick it up from a torrent site. The whole > concept of remembering when a show is on and watching it is now > totally alien to me - I want content on demand, and youtube > delivers that. Its just that its generally trashy content on there, > and whilst you can sometimes spend hours watching what fun people > have with... Y'know... Putting firecrackers down their pants or > whatever.... Its not exactly the kind of high-brow stuff people > want from a proper broadcasting outfit. Youtube is generally lowest- > common-denominator content, but the trend is definitely towards not > being told when in our busy day we're going to take time to watch > somethi! > ng when the technology to watch it when we want to is so > pervasive. Increasingly, television as a medium is going to fall by > the way-side as other newer mediums take over. These are > predominantly going to be to some extent internet-driven. That > doesn't mean that the programmes are going to end, but they are > going to evolve. Ten years ago, choosing which angle you viewed a > football match from would have seemed insane, nowadays you just > have to press a button on your remote. > Ten years from now, who knows what will be possible, but as some > level of abstraction, there's still going to be sound and pictures > being transmitted. > > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, > please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ > mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- > archive.com/[email protected]/ > > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, > please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ > mailing_list.html. 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