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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Loosemore
> Sent: 11 January 2007 10:03
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> Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feeds of the BBC TV subtitles?
> 
> On 10/01/07, Frank Wales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Brian Butterworth wrote:
> > > Some BBC programs provide their scripts online, but I was 
> wondering 
> > > if it would be possible to provide ALL the subtitles used 
> by the BBC 
> > > (and other broadcasters) over the course of the day as RSS feeds?
> >
> > I asked some BBC people about this last year, and the answers 
> > generally seemed to be preceded by lots of sucking in of 
> air through teeth.
> >
> > I believe the problem is not technical, but contractual, in that 
> > subtitles shown on BBC programmes are often not owned by the BBC.
> > So what seems, on the face of it, to be an obvious thing to do is 
> > actually quite fiendishly difficult to make happen.
> >
> > No doubt some actual BBC people will explain further.
> > Or, ideally, say: "it's all sorted out now, here they are!"
> 
> contractual... messy, messy, messy (as usual, we only have 
> broadcast rights).. tech messy messy (several sources, 
> depending on whether it's live or prerecorded. One of those 
> cases where I hit a brick wall, I'm afraid, cos you're right 
> it's a lovely feed. It's being dealt with as part of the 
> preparations for iPlayer, but don't hold breath.
> 
> if you want to play in private, and you're  feeling quite 
> hardcore, you *could* extract the subtitles from a DVB-S 
> MPEG2 stream (aka a satellite stream) where they're still in 
> there somewhere as ASCII. On DTT (Freeview) the subtitles are 
> transmitted as bitmaps, so are hard to get-at (a friend tried 
> to OCR them out, and Failed with a capital
> F)

I thought they were fixed pitch "Tiresias Screenfont"?  It might be easier
to get them from analogue TV with a Teletext card.  

Does the Copyrights Designs and Patents Act 1988 cover the subtitles
associated with a TV channel?  Would implementing a "search" feed, rather
than a complete feed be OK with the Act?

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