On Mon, 2007-07-09 at 22:05 +0100, Chris Sizemore wrote:
> holy synonomous concepts, batman... 
> point is, it would be easy to "merge" these on freebase, nearly
> impossible directly in the BBC Programme Catalogue context...

Indeed, Freebase is superior in this regard.

> arguably, the BBC has done it's part by making the Catalogue data
> available via RDF and Atom? if freebase is a useful (interim)
> destination for this data, isn't the assumption that the community
> will make it happen? (hint, hint?)

I believe the community would make it happen if the license allowed it
to happen. The problem is that the BBC took the obvious step of applying
the Backstage API license to the data on the Catalogue, which is more of
a database than an API... See my other post for license discussion.

Regards,
Oli
> 
> 
> best--
> 
> --cs
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Brendan Quinn
> Sent: Mon 7/9/2007 9:30 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Uploading the BBC programme catalogue to freebase (was RE:
> [backstage] Programme Catalogue vs. Freebase (was: BBC Programme
> Catalogue -any APIs yet?))
> 
> I was considering entering a hack for Hack Day around that very thing.
> But then they went and made me one of the judges ;-)
> 
> Wanna help? A simple set of scripts that scrape the archive (er I mean
> "call that big RESTful API") and post entries/updates to the freebase
> sandbox server would be an interesting experiment.
> 
> I agree that freebase is an amazing resource, especially when the
> programme data is curated properly:
> 
> compare
> http://www.freebase.com/view/?id=%239202a8c04000641f8000000000012406
> with
> http://open.bbc.co.uk/catalogue/infax/series/DOCTOR+WHO
> !
> 
> There may be some rights issues around what would basically amount to
> opening up the programme catalogue under the creative commons
> attribution license, where the attribution wouldn't go to the BBC but
> to
> Freebase...
> 
> Brendan.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Oliver Cole
> Sent: 09 July 2007 20:51
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [backstage] Programme Catalogue vs. Freebase (was: BBC
> Programme Catalogue -any APIs yet?)
> 
> I've been following the Programme Catalogue since it was announced,
> and
> its pretty interesting.
> 
> I do however have a question for the BBC people on the list - have you
> considered simply uploading all the information to Freebase[1]? I can
> understand that you might want to keep it in house, but if you merged
> it
> with the wealth of information on Freebase you can do exponentially
> more.
> 
> For example, if it was properly integrated you could run a query that
> would tell me how many of the contributors to Spooks series 2 were
> born
> in London.
> 
> Regards,
> Oli
> 
> [1] http://www.freebase.com - A very cool structured database,
> currently
> handling 2.3 million instances of 870 'types'
> 
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