On 12/11/2007, Stuart Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why do you have to use
> proprietary standards for Listen again (real player) when plenty of
> perfectly good open standards exist.

I *believe* Mr Highfield did address this, he said anything open was insecure.
(conversely he implied proprietary software was secure. I am therefore
apparently imagining the hundreds of spam messages I receive from
zombied proprietary Windows boxes. Hmm on another note I wonder what
Googling for "iPlayer DRM Crack" does. Ah the wonders of proprietary
security, so trustworthy.)

Also if Mr Highfield is believed you may want to contact your bank and
ask them to stop using SSL as it must be insecure as it is an open
standard. You may also want to stop using SSH as well. And PGP
encryption has got to be insecure as well.

> Is it because it is meant to be a streaming service that you cant
> record? Well I am sorry then it is just a fig leaf because it can be
> recorded.

I think there is a command to a certain Media PLAYER that allows you
to dump streams to a file on your hard disk. Damn useful for trying to
find out how a stream somehow became noise as it moved the the PC in
one corner of the room to one in the other corner. I suppose it would
work equally well for any stream.
(This may actually only work in the Debug version, not entirely sure).

> The rights holders should be told that all their content is out there
> for free anyway. It just that those using it are not making too many
> waves.
Some of them are making "waves" Ahh me hearties and shiver me timbers. </subtle>

> The solution for iPlayer and the horrible DRM is to do what the Open
> Rights group advocated and launch a streaming service. Register your
> computer with your TV licence number and use a streaming video format.

Why do you need to provide a TV license number? Don't we have the TV
Licensing Agency to enforce TV licenses? What happens if you are in
your car (using a Laptop and Free WiFi) and your TV license is all the
way in your house? Do you even require a T.V. License for streaming
(non-live) content?

Remember, much as the BBC ignore it, they are bound by a charter and
agreement, which states:
> 102. The meaning of "licence fee payer"
> In this Agreement, a reference to a "licence fee payer" is not to be taken 
> literally but
> includes, not only a person to whom a TV licence is issued under section 364 
> of the
> Communications Act 2003, but also (so far as is sensible in the context) any 
> other person
> in the UK who watches, listens to or uses any BBC service, or may do so or 
> wish to do
> so in the future.
> From: 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets/files/pdf/regulatory_framework/charter_agreement/bbcagreement_july06.txt

So why should you need to enter a TV License number?
Especially if one is not actually needed.
You don't need to key your license number into your T.V. set do you?

Also the BBC have said that the streaming will be of "Lower Quality"
than the download service. So anyone who doesn't subscribe to a Third
Party (foreign) software vendor the BBC has selected gets a worse
service. Now where is that permitted in the charter and agreement?

If I am not much mistaken the streaming will be in a proprietary
format requiring a proprietary platform to run it on. But please
correct me if this is a mistake, in doing so it would be helpful if
you provided the RFC number for the standard format and protocols that
will be deployed.

Thanks
- Andy

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