On 22/11/2007, James Ockenden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Brian, I also missed the very subtle changes to the page- but I would > say, hyperlinking "scientists" and "headaches" etc every other word is > gonna give the reader sore eyes and thousands of hours of lost work as > they educate themselves in mass trivia.
Isn't that the whole point of Hypertext? I can't understand it when people remove useful wikilinks on Wikipedia. Obviosuly you would only do relevant words, and only the first instance. And to Rob, respect for your project; from a user perspective, if I > wanna follow up something I've read on BBC news I'll just do it > through google.. are you able to make links to other media relevant > stories, rather than just Wiki? > EG BBC headline recently "Karachi stock exhange falls 5%" when in fact > every Asian stock exchange had fallen by over 5% that day, but I guess > some editor was trying to make the point Pakistan was a dangerous > unstable place without any mention at all of the worldwide stock > slide.... THEN we need Muddy Boot skill to pick out what's really > going on. The history of the Karachi stock exchange from Wiki ain't > gonna cut it... a link to that morning's Reuters "Asian stocks slide" > story is going to defeat the sensationalist editor's plans right there > and then. > > Also an idea I had on Brian's overloaded link example - some sort of > spidery engine which grabs all such wiki links on pages viewed by the > user, collates the entries into a monthly "encyclopedia" pdf, > delivered to your door with fake leatherette burgundy cover for > $9.99... > > cheers :-) > > On 22/11/2007, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rob, > > > > This is an interesting - and very subtle - enhancedment to the BBC news > > pages. Took me a while to spot what was being added, so well was it > done. > > > > I was wondering if you could modify it so that it could also add links > to > > Wikipedia articles by adding hypertext links within the text. > > > > For example, in the first one you post there is some text... > > > > "Scientists have discovered differences in the sensory areas of the > brains > > of people who develop migraines. > > > > They found a part of the cortex is thicker than in people who are free > from > > the debilitating headaches. > > > > What is not clear is whether the difference causes, or is the result of > > migraine attacks. > > > > The Neurology study, by Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston, > suggests > > the changes may make patients hyper-sensitive to pain in general. " > > > > IMHO, it would be enhanced by adding in Wikipedia links, like this: > > > > "Scientists have discovered differences in the sensory areas of the > brains > > of people who develop migraines. > > > > They found a part of the cortex is thicker than in people who are free > from > > the debilitating headaches. > > > > What is not clear is whether the difference causes, or is the result of > > migraine attacks. > > > > The Neurology study, by Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston , > suggests > > the changes may make patients hyper-sensitive to pain in general. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 21/11/2007, robl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > > > Just thought I'd accompany the latest post to the backstage blog > > > ( > > http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/11/from_last_years_1.html) > > > with some examples of muddyboots in action. For those of you who > aren't > > > aware of the project it's probably best to look at > > > > > http://muddyboots.rattleresearch.com/cgi-bin/mb.cgi?action=more. > > > Essentially we're attempting to use Wikipedia and other commons > authored > > > data sources to augment the meta-data around BBC news stories, this > > > ultimately took the form of automated contextually relevant link > > > recommendations based off data within Wikipedia and del.icio.us > > > (although we have some other ideas about how this data could be used > ...) > > > > > > It's still a prototype so it's not production ready by any means, > there > > > are still stories where we are unable to recommend links and there are > > > others where ambiguity becomes a problem and identifying what context > a > > > story has can be difficult (although we have some ideas around using > the > > > disambiguation data within Wikipedia to improve this). > > > > > > Here are a few links to stories where I thought muddyboots added some > > > interest and hopefully a little of that Wikipedia 'browse experience' > : > > > > > > > > http://muddyboots.rattleresearch.com/cgi-bin/mb.cgi?action=page&id=646 > > > > > http://muddyboots.rattleresearch.com/cgi-bin/mb.cgi?action=page&id=630 > > > > > http://muddyboots.rattleresearch.com/cgi-bin/mb.cgi?action=page&id=622 > > > > > http://muddyboots.rattleresearch.com/cgi-bin/mb.cgi?action=page&id=643 > > > > > > If you'd like to see how those recommendations were arrived at then > each > > > story has a 'View' action which can be used to get a breakdown of each > > > stage of the muddyboots process, for example : > > > > > > > > http://muddyboots.rattleresearch.com/cgi-bin/mb.cgi?action=view&id=622 > > > > > > It's worth noting we only keep the last 50 story submissions in the > > > system, so these links will eventually 'age' out. > > > > > > (Disclaimer : I worked on the project) > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Rob > > > - > > > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, > please > > visit > > http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html > . Unofficial > > list archive: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Please email me back if you need any more help. > > > > Brian Butterworth > > http://www.ukfree.tv > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please > visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial > list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv
