On 22/11/2007, Carlos Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Which programmes are you getting a 404 for? Can you give some examples > please. In theory, once the file is removed from live then there > shouldn't be a link to them in the RSS feed. > > Think because we only got rights from the PPL we have to stick to UK > only on those podcasts. It is a shame but guess that's the rules we have > to obey to get those podcasts out there. > > As for the BBCs rules on podcasts there is a nice page here > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/terms/ about them. Also, from the > FAQ: > > "Can I burn podcast episodes to CD? > > Yes, but the podcasts are for your personal non-commercial use only. > > All title, ownership rights and intellectual property rights in, and to, > the BBC podcasts shall remain the property of the BBC or third parties. > You may not edit, alter, adapt or add to the BBC podcast in any way." > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/help/faq/burn_podcast_to_cd.shtml > > Also, as for OggVorbis... There really isn't a demand (apart from here), > so maybe worth voicing your opinion at > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/contact/podcast_form.shtml instead. Don't > think any one actually answered what Martin Belam wrote about what the > "Usability" and "Value For Money" for Licence Fee payers would be in > providing Ogg Podcasts.
It's not a direct answer from the man himself and It's obviously not BBC policy but: James Cridland, now Head of Future Media & Technology, BBC Audio & Music Interactive, wrote to this mailing list in February whilst he was still with Virgin Radio stating: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg03400.html "My employer has been making an Ogg Vorbis stream available for years (indeed, if you visit www.virginradio.co.uk/listen from any Linux box, it's the default choice). Currently, less than 0.01% of our online listeners use it. It's possible for all our podcasts to be produced in Ogg Vorbis automatically, too. Indeed, all our on-demand audio is already encoded into Ogg Vorbis, for when it becomes a popular codec (and we're still waiting). Ultimately, no organisation can spend time servicing 0.01% of people without losing focus for the 99.99% of people." He also recently posted a comment to the Ashley Highfield open standards post on the BBC Internet blog stating: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2007/11/open_standards.html#c3988750 "I was an employee of a commercial radio station before I joined Auntie in July. That station is one of the world's most listened-to online radio stations. I made the decision, while there, to support Ogg Vorbis. But, after four years of supporting it on a Linux-friendly site - and even being a preset in some GNU/Linux distros - I could count the total listeners to Ogg Vorbis, at peak times, on both hands. And, um, one foot. But not using all the toes. (Those stats are not dissimilar to others I've discovered elsewhere on the 'net for Ogg use). I don't deny that Ogg Vorbis is a splendid thing in theory. In pratice, my experience is that few people bother with it - not helped by the fact that few major players cope with it. My Ubuntu box copes quite happily with an open source version of Real Player; presumably this Puppy Linux box would too if I bothered to download it; and the Mac under the telly copes with both Real and Windows, thanks to a free plugin to Quicktime. So, free-to-the-user alternatives to Ogg Vorbis exist on all major platforms. While I don't think that Real + Windows = the only way of broadcasting online, I'm yet to be convinced, personally, by Ogg Vorbis. You're welcome to disagree; and perhaps I might expand on different ways to enjoy radio when I make my first blog posting in this blog." PS his first post to the BBC Internet blog is now online: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2007/11/web_20_mainstream_media_not_de.html Anyway, thought you said your Generic Portable Ogg Vorbis Player plays > MP3s ;) > > -C. > > > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please > visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial > list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > -- Michael Walsh Mobile: +44-(0)771-2524200 Mobile: +353-(0)85-1278212 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.digitalrightsmanifesto.com Blog: http://digitalrightsmanifesto.wordpress.com
