I'm sorry to hear you feel the BBC don't care about accessibility, Andy.

I'd have to disagree with you.

Our "redefined" definition of accessibility is all about what actually
helps disabled people.

And creating documents that validate is not something I've ever heard a
disabled person ask us to do, or found to be a particular barrier to a
disabled person accessing our sites in user testing.

It is widely agreed that the W3C WAI WCAG guidelines (they are
guidelines, not standards) have always been a good start to trying to
help website producers (mostly technical staff) understand what may help
their sites to be more accessible. It has also been widely agreed that
you can create a AAA compliant site which is totally unusable to a
particular disabled person, and create sites which do help disabled
people but have to break WCAG guidelines to do that...

Even the W3C agree with that, which is why they're spending so long
trying to come with a v2 of WCAG to give more help to web professionals
in this area.

Where our audiences' needs diverge from the requirements of the
standards community, I would hope we'd always try and put our audiences'
needs first - this is, after all, one of the core values of the BBC.

Best regards

Jonathan.

Jonathan Hassell
Editor, Standards & Guidelines, BBC New Media | Accessibility Editor,
BBC jam
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: 05 December 2007 13:48
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC Backstage Podcast : Accessibility in a Web
2.0 world?

On 03/12/2007, Ian Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I ask the question if we've returned to the days before webstandards 
> and if there was one thing developers could do now to aid
accessibility what would it be?

The BBC certainly has returned to the days before standards in that they
refuse to follow even the most common ones.

They even ignored Accessibility standards from a consortium they are a
member of.
Spending a fewminutes doing a check and already I have found the BBC
failed to comply with priority 2 requirements. Specifically:
Checkpoint 3.2 <http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10/#tech-identify-grammar>

However instead of actually caring about accessibility and fixing the
problems they just "redefined" accessibility.

I hope you explained why the BBC does not care about any kind of
accessibility.

Andy

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