Oh my word this is all so tiresome - rehashed, insoluble debate points
surrounded in prose which is itself quite retentively picked apart to
needlessly point score - in a discussion I'm sure 90% of the list would
prefer not to be cluttering their inboxes. I can visit Slashdot for this
no ?
Please... please.... more signal; less noise.
Seconded.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crossland
Sent: 06 December 2007 11:30
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [backstage] Please release Perl on Rails as Free Software
On 06/12/2007, vijay chopra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Personally I believe (as you seemed to agree) that code is
an art form
I disagree totally. Code functions; it does stuff. There is a
craft to making code, and that can be compared to the craft
of making artwork, but artworks themselves do not function.
My position offers freedom without taking it away from others as
people are free to not to buy Private-Eye, rap music or
weaponry, just
as people were free not to buy a TIVO.
But its illegal (software idea patent and dmca-style laws) to
make your own TiVO, and to make one and sell one. So you can
not buy a tivo, but you can't buy a free alternative.
To be blunt, I disagree that what TIVO did took any freedom
away from
anyone, they just did something I didn't like,
Generally, users of proprietary software have given up their freedom.
To say the company making the software took their freedom is
only valid when they are forced to use the software - such as
legal requirements to read documents in a format only
readable by proprietary office software.
my position is in fact more idealistic than that of the
FSF, and as a
result GPLv3 is not (as claimed) more idealistic than
GPLv2 but less so as it is more restrictive.
Your ideals do not seem to include freedom for all users;
instead, power for developers.
The point of the software freedom movement is that users and
developers should have the same degree of power over the
development of the software.
--
Regards,
Dave
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