My Vario 2 (HTC Hermes) has Flash Player 7, the latest supported (and available) release of Flash for WinMo mobile devices. Believe me, I've tried to update it to something newer, it just ain't happening. It doesn't do youtube or just about any other embedded-flash webpage properly, and can't even display flash content unless it's embedded in the 'classic' way - which is also the way hardly anybody uses now because it's 1) clunky and 2) triggers the marching ants around the Flash frame (thanks for that USPO) - so you get that message telling you to upgrade your flash player all the time. Strike 1. Anyway, initial impressions of /iplayer on my phone (using PIE): horribly rendered front page, have to click on the text for each front page programme to actually get to its page (clicking on the image does nothing). Once you're on the page, the flash doesn't even load, and neither does the descriptor text underneath or owt. Don't have much spare time right now, my DVD render's just finished so my attention's about to be drawn to that, but I've not given Opera Mobile a go yet (though I doubt it'd work at all). At least by stripping the DRM off the WMV files I can transfer them to my mobile device, should I wish to watch something at lunch... But then I just have iPlayer installed on the laptop I use at work, and I can download stuff overnight. Flash *really* strains mobile devices anyway, they're not built for pure horsepower grunt with their RISC processors and limited battery life. Incidentally, I watched some stuff on my Wnidows 2000 machine last night (in the flash player) - and it refused to hardware upscale when I went fullscreen, instead software rendering, resulting in about 1.5fps and horrible pixelation and image tearing. This is in Firefox, IE's Flash Player update wanted me to reboot to finish the installation (!) so I just used Firefox, which updated the plugin no problems and let me use it again straight away. ... I'm wondering if this upscaling thing is just a Windows 2000 thing or if it's something to do with the Firefox plugin - but it's certainly a cause for concern down the line. The housemate likes it though.
_____ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 13 December 2007 13:19 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live On 13/12/2007, nick richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 12/13/07, Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 13/12/2007, Oeztunali, Sebnem < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "... where I actually want to download > > the videos before I watch because they're saved on my PC then for subsequent > > Viewing..." > > > > Don't you just need to hit the "play again" button for subsequent viewing > > in a flash player? > > Your hand held computers have flash players? My Nokia S60 phone does. And with Flash Lite v3 (admittedly in 'developer preview' only at the moment) it supports YouTube so I don't see any reason why a UK located IP wouldn't be able to use iPlayer. (although I haven't used it yet, obviously) On my Lobster (Windows Mobile 5), I can't use the iPlayer with Opera, I get a "this only works in the UK" message. On the same phone, IE does nothing! There are a range of Flashes for mobile devices at: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/devices/pocket_pc.html Nick - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv <http://www.ukfree.tv>

