On 18/03/2008, Iain Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm a BBC senior manager; but posting personally as a fan of Backstage.

Intersting assertion. Makes me think....

> > It puts us (those that care about Backstage) in a really difficult position
> > if it's used to share information on ways to get around content-restrictions
> > on a BBC service.

So to summerize; it makes the BBC line about "hackers cracking their
way around the piracy prevention technology" difficult to maintain if

> > I don't want to see the end of the Backstage unmoderated mailing list.

I doubt many people on here would put up with a premoderated list, and
for the bbc I imagine it might be financially crippling to employ
someone to premoderate a High Volume mailing list like this.

> > Posting this type of information threatens its future.

If this does happen, one will be able to find details of what
replacement list springs up at tdobson.net
"The net treats censorship as damage and routes around it."  - John Gilmore

> > Please don't. Anywhere else. Just not here.

So you are suggesting this list engages in Self-Censorship so that the
BBC can give the impression that it knows that the iplayer DRM schemes
are:
a) broken
b) pointless
c) designed in a defective manner ;)

> As you wish: http://beebhack.bluwiki.com/

I would be tempted to drop this all into bbc-backstage...

> Created because I can't keep up with all the threads discussing
> iPlayer hacks on the various sites and forums. I've filled out quite a
> bit on the iPlayer already but it could do with more info and there
> are stubs for other BBC services there as well.

...but centralized knowledge is also really useful and hunting down
mailing list posts i know is annoying.

> I think I entirely misunderstood what the point of this mailing list
> was. I was encouraged to come here to discuss running the iPlayer on
> exotic platforms but now we're actually doing it it seems it's a taboo
> subject. Rather than try and work out the bizarre politics of this
> place I'll be writing my main discoveries regarding the iPlayer on the
> wiki, which is Free (in both regards).

I think it would be good to let bbc-backstage know at regular
intervals exactly what the status of the bbc-iplayer drm is.

How broken is it at the moment?

Czesc

Tim

P.S. I think removing people induvidually or in small groups from the
list would be a very bad idea, don't you?

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