trry looking at the 'Astley Prank storms web' link -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/player/nol/newsid_7320000/ newsid_7323500?redirect=7323544.stm&news=1&bbwm=1&bbram=1&nbram=1&nbwm=1


On 31 Mar 2008, at 16:36, Tom Hannen wrote:

The question is - how best to avoid looking at the black bar?
Adblock?  Some CSS thingy?  Greasemonkey?

Tom

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Robin Cramp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




The header and footers are being pulled in on all new designs within
bbc.co.uk to keep the standard throughout the site.

I must agree that it doesn't quite work in this instance; if all new pages are to follow this format then it might be worth looking at how the news
banner is incorporated better into this design format.



Robin



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The double mastheads (black then red) take up too much space and push the main chunk of the site too far down the page. Apart from that, a very nice
design. Centred and wider…. at last. /applause/





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Me too..



I like the wider pages, good considering the increasing amount of widescreen
users (msyelf included).



However, the black up top is too large and an unnecessary waste of screen real estate. The BBC logo isn't even aligned with the BBC News logo, so it all looks off-kilter. Also, a slight, subtle columnisation would work nicely - just a slightly darker background colour for the "see also" column on the far right of the screen would be nice. Some aspects like the darker bgcolor for image captions is gone, which is a shame as it helped separate the main
body text from the captions.



Not everything in the old design needed getting rid of...



Switchable stylesheets would be the win!



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Today!



http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2008/03/refreshing_changes.html

 300 comments already!



On 31/03/2008, Matt Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


When did this go live?! The black bar at the top will have to grow on
me... are there any plans to do anything else with that, other than a
 search box?

 ./Matt
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