Mr I Forrester wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/03/bbc_highfield_isp_threat/

"Relationships between the BBC and internet industry have plunged to an all-time low, after the BBC's internet chief Ashley Highfield used a blog post yesterday to tell ISPs to get stuffed - and even threatened to name and shame them."

Might as well point it out before someone else does, surely this is good for net neutrality?
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I would like to express my support for the BBC's position. If anything it is not explicit enough. The costs of bandwidth continually fall

The Register article is completely wrong, and reflects a incorrect view held by many.

The real questions are why are we been deprived of the fruits of technological progress and why is is bandwidth usage flat in the UK, when it is growing at 40%pa in the rest of developed the world facilitated by technological progress.

Why are the ISP's bleating about their costs when they are just competing to be the lowest cost retailer of the BT wholesale product, rather than been a competitor to BT. While BT uses it's monopoly status to keep wholesale prices from falling in line increases in capacity.

This alternative model (compete with the incumbent) has worked in Japan for Yahoo/Softbank and France for Free.fr. In the US we have incumbent Verizon deploying FTTH.

It seems to me, the senior management of BT and ISP's in the UK do not understand the fundamental technologies and processes, behind their products. Which is about as damming and indictment of management as you can get.

Virgin are about to demonstrate the potential of their HFC network with their 50Mb/s download product, and BSkyB may dramatically increase or abolish usage caps in the near future, as they have optical fiber to the Tier 1 exchanges which cover 70% of the UK population. Upto five more ISP's could eventually join BSkyB (Fiber to Tier 1 MSAN) setting the potential for competition in providing both low cost, and full ADSL2+ bandwidth (12-20Mb/s).

You can read in detail the breakdown of costs for an ISP, posted by another David Tomlinson who works for Plusnet (owned by BT), but this is all based upon the costs of using BT's IPstream product. He doesn't really address the costs of LLU networks, or address the charges on BT's monopoly IPstream product.

http://community.plus.net/blog/2008/02/28/how-uk-isps-are-charged-for-broadband-the-cost-of-ipstream/


An earlier posting by the same David Tomlinson (who works for PlusNet) reproduces a Telebusillis post.

"However, it is almost impossible to make money on ipstream in retail given current pricing and churn rates and therefore the only player with any margin is BT through its wholesale revenues or the relatively small number of ISPs who charge a premium for SME products."

This is the thrust of the later article (above), which leaves the only viable alternative infrastructure competition.

"Roughly speaking, most serious nationwide unbundlers (Carphone, Sky, Tiscali, O2 and Orange) will eventually unbundle down to the Tier 1 MSAN level at a minimum which is around 1200 exchanges and covers around 70% or 17.7m of the 25.3m UK homes. Again roughly speaking, most of them will backhaul using BT Ethernet products to the MetroPOPs where they will offload traffic onto their own backbones. In other words because of the BT network architecture most of the unbundlers will be using a blueprint which will be very, very similar."

http://community.plus.net/blog/2007/10/01/21cn-and-regional-pricing/
http://telebusillis.blogspot.com/2007/08/21cn-bands-and-regional-pricing.html

Seven companies providing competition for 47% of the population, and Six of the Seven for a further 23% (70% total) leaving BT with exclusive access to and increased charges for the remaining 30%.

Another Telebusillis post shows how far we have to go, you may not want to be using BT for MetroEthernet, you really need the Tier 1 MSANs.

http://telebusillis.blogspot.com/2007/10/bt-regulated-accounts-for-20067-scary.html

"Here the breakdown of connections in 2006/7 is revealing:

    * 100 meg – 1,854 connections
    * 1 gig – 833 connections
    * Other – 117 connections

It doesn’t take a PhD in maths to figure out that in busy hour, it won’t take many punters browsing, streaming and p2p’ing to fill up a 100-meg backhaul pipe. I think once someone solves the problem of unbundlers misleading advertising with “up-to x-meg” claims, it is time to move onto forcing unbundlers to publish their backhaul capacity from each exchange. It is just too easy for some companies to blame poor peak hour speeds on excessive p2p’ers when in fact it is a feature of their failed-GCSE maths driven network design."

No wonder Tiscali are selling their Broadband service in the UK.
http://www.portal.itproportal.com/articles/2008/04/04/british-isps-eyeing-tiscali-broadband-arm/
http://uk.reuters.com/article/hotStocksNews/idUKL0483288320080404
However this could have more to do with the credit crunch, if you grow by acquisition (pipex,etc) you may have large debts.


You may have concluded from the Plusnet and other articles that the ISP business is cut-throat with wafer thin profit margins and hopelessly oversubscribed bandwidth. This is true, but you also need to look at the fundamentals.

You can go to www.DSLprime.com and read, that demand is in line with or below the increases in capacity produced by technological progress (Moores or Butters Law) and the all in cost of per Mb is 50p against the £12-20 pcm charged for the (Upto 8Mb) service.


http://www.dslprime.com/News_Articles/news_articles.htm
"40 gigabytes at seven cents is less than three dollars per month. Time Warner charges over $40. That's like Starbucks drastically raising the price if you put sugar in your coffee. Any large carrier with a cap below 100 gigabytes and a price above $30 is abusing market power. Their bandwidth costs are less than the marketing budget, and teh customer is profitable."

You look at Japan, or France or even the USA (see above) and ask why has such low bandwidth, while UK ISP's plead poverty (of both Money and Bandwidth).

There is only one answer; two letters, first is B, last is T.

FTTH is a whole new can of worms, but BT should not be allowed to extend or maintain it's monopoly at public expense.

Reference to Moores law is perfectly justified as indicated in the Wikipedia article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law

It has a more colloquial use "Moore's Law describes this driving force of technological and social change in the late 20th and early 21st centuries." but even in a more strict sense, the slowest components in an optical network are the electronics, the modems, routers and switches, used for modulation of the signal and interconnection. The performance of which are directly influenced by the performance of the silicon chips, this performance is often influenced by the size and number of transistors and the complexity of the chips.

Perhaps people would be more comfortable with the more obscure Butter's Law of Photonics (see the Wikepedia article on Moores Law).

If you have managed to get here, You could have read much of this on DSLprime (not written by me I have no association with DSLprime). I have been watching the credit crunch rather than telecoms or intellectual property except when provoked to comment. Sorry about the length of the post.

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