Keep it all server-side is what I say J. 

 

Won't affect the SEO, and won't limit users without JS.

However the OnClick would almost achieve the same I guess ...

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 04 November 2008 10:32
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [backstage] "Greedy BBC Blocks External Links"

 

2008/11/4 Gavin Pearce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



"I might be being a bit blond here, but why even the need to have
"rel=nofollow" at all?

 

It is supposed to be there to stop automatic and commercial links
polluting search engine rankings."

 

 

** Sorry I meant within the BBC related links section specifically. My
bad for not making it clear.

 

 

Exactly Brian, I think we are on the same page ... my point is why does
the BBC need to make use of JavaScript, or NoFollow tags for links to
"key" sites related to the story in hand?

I can see a good point about using a redirector as you can use it

 

a) test to see if the link is broken; and

 

b) count the number of times it get used.

 

 

I keep thinking of using a bit of "onclick=..." with an AJAX routine to
do the testing and counting.  It is a simple matter of returning a true
value to allow the link to activate.  I guess if it broken you could
return false...

 

 

         

        End-user generated content is a different matter ...

         

         

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        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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        Sent: 04 November 2008 10:12

        
        To: [email protected]
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        2008/11/4 Gavin Pearce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

        I might be being a bit blond here, but why even the need to have
        "rel=nofollow" at all?

         

        It is supposed to be there to stop automatic and commercial
links polluting search engine rankings.

         

                
                
                I can understand on "user" generated content, but when
it's a link to a
                relevant and respected website on the topic in hand,
than that isn't a
                good or valid reason to use the "nofollow" syntax. In
fact as stated
                already, that's a large part in how the big search
engines work.
                
                Google isn't likely to start penalising the BBC site as
it's no doubt on
                a "respected site" / "white list" somewhere else within
the Google
                system...

         

        But that isn't, to be fair, the issue.  The issue is that even
if the BBC decides to link to an external site, if it uses either the
methods described, a visiting user will get there, but a search engine
will dismiss it.  

         

        Incoming links are useful for SEO and to have them turned off
from the BBC is a big problem.  Last time I had a link from a major BBC
page to my site, my usual traffic (and ad revenue) tripled for three
days.  But the link did not boost any search engine ratings.

         

         

                
                
                
                
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                -----Original Message-----
                From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Martin Belam
                Sent: 04 November 2008 09:36
                To: [email protected]
                Subject: Re: [backstage] "Greedy BBC Blocks External
Links"
                
                I don't think it is "evil", and as I've pointed out on
their blog and
                on Sphinn, since Patrick at Blogstorm himself applies
"nofollow" to
                all outbound links it is a little rich to be complaining
that the BBC
                doesn't provide 'trusted' links. Interesting point about
how Google
                can be expected to run a trusted link based algorithm in
the future,
                but lets not forget it was the search engines that
concocted
                "nofollow" themselves, and Google is these days
notorious for
                penalising sites in the rankings that it 'believes' are
displaying
                paid links that are not clearly marked as advertising.
I've blogged a
                little about the Blogstorm post as well -
        
http://www.currybet.net/cbet_blog/2008/11/bbc_news_clumsy_linking.php
                
                cheers,
                martin
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