"There is a lot of focus on media centre apps like Boxee, XMBC and Elisa, but 
there is a gaping hole when it comes to a good DTV app. What do I mean by good?"
 
 
See for the longest time I did away with the idea of a DTV app, I get 
everything over IP pre-recorded. But I know that doesn't work for everyone.
 
The idea of a BeeBuntu seems like a good idea specially if we can plug this 
problem which Kevin's identified?
 
Cheers

Ian Forrester

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        From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kevin Anderson
        Sent: 27 April 2009 11:20
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: [backstage] BeeBuntu was [Fwd: [ORG-discuss] The Guardian 
drops Office has gone OpenOffice]
        
        
        Ant, 
        
        I have tried just about all of DTV players and HTPC packages for Linux 
- Kaffeine, MeTV, Myth (so much pain for not so much payoff), Freevo, GeexBox, 
VDR and the list goes on. I actually end up using VLC most of the time because 
it's so lightweight. The first challenge would be to find (or develop) a good 
DTV app. Kaffeine hasn't been stable in the last couple of releases. MeTV is 
good, but it uses way too many cycles just to update the EPG. Myth. Where do I 
start? While it ticks the boxes in terms of configurability, it's too difficult 
to set up and way too easy to break. Freevo doesn't like Python on Ubuntu. VLC 
is brilliant, but it doesn't have an EPG and doesn't have a one click way to 
record. If anyone does know of a good DTV package that I haven't mentioned, 
please let me know. 
        
        Oddly, I like the open source media centre packages on Windows - 
MediaPortal and GB-PVR more than the options on Linux. I've ended up using 
EyeTV on our iBook, which is brilliant. 
        
        There is a lot of focus on media centre apps like Boxee, XMBC and 
Elisa, but there is a gaping hole when it comes to a good DTV app. What do I 
mean by good? 
        
        * EPG - This is real glaring issue for Linux DTV apps. Kaffeine has a 
serviceable EPG but it only shows you what is playing and the next show. Myth 
does it well but has so many other issues. MeTV suffers from serious CPU load 
just to update the EPG. 
        * EPG search
        * Scheduled recording - I want to be able to go to the EPG and click 
record. 
        
        That's really about it, which is why I'm so baffled that there isn't 
something better on offer. As I've said, if anyone has tried and liked 
something, let me know. But, to get something like BeeBuntu, you'd need a good 
DTV app first. 
        
        Having said that, I'll give GeexBox another try. It might be a good 
candidate for your idea Ant. 
        
        best,
        k
        
        
        
        On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Ant Miller <[email protected]> 
wrote:
        

                On the subject of bootsticks (and yet changing the subject 
slightly to
                avoid any further potentially incriminating asides!) we kicked 
around
                the idea of 'The BBC ona Stick' a few years ago- a Bootable USB 
drive
                running a custom Linux install (BeeBuntu!?) with an integrated 
DTV
                tuner.   The whole thing would look like a slightly fatter 
version of
                the Haupage USB tv tuners.  As an idea it had a host of 
wonderful
                benefits, and almost as many potential drawbacks- delivering OS
                environments to the masses, getting extended use out of older 
PCs,
                potentially further energising the OS development community, 
allowing
                integration of TV and internet platforms far earlier, and with 
the
                potential for far more flexible exploitation, than.. um, you 
know,
                other stuff that might happen.
                
                Anyway it never got further than a few presentations and some
                interesting talks, but I thought it worth sharing,
                
                a
                



                On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Kevin Anderson 
<[email protected]> wrote:
                > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:37 AM, Ant Miller 
<[email protected]> wrote:
                >>
                >> Overall very impressive- there are some in the gleaming cueb 
who go
                >> further and tote a bootable ubuntu usb stick round with them 
(heh!).
                >
                > I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about Ant. ;-)  
I suggest it
                > highly for anyone who needs to get some work done with a 
computer at work.
                > And Jaunty is a definite step up for anyone wanting to do 
this.
                > Pendrivelinux.com has a handy guide to creating a boot CD if 
you don't have
                > access to the bios to boot from a USB stick.
                >
                > best,
                > k
                >
                > Kevin Anderson
                >
                >
                >
                >
                
                
                
                
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