Or they provide clear instruction on how to do it WITHOUT having to resort to Google...
A large number of issues come from the wide breadth of software and authors, all doing things in their own ways... The Œopenness¹ here is what causes the problem as there don¹t appear to be any accepted design patterns to follow etc. Don¹t get me wrong I¹m a geek and Œmostly¹ can do what I need to on Ubuntu but honestly at the moment I wouldn¹t put Linux on a Œusers¹ desktop. Also, it¹d be nice if the software was seen my a UI designer before launch. Most UI¹s on Linux software are very sucky at the moment! On 04/08/2009 12:46, "Andrew Bowden" <andrew.bow...@bbc.co.uk> wrote: > Out of interest, did you get him to try using a tar.gz file or a deb/rpm? > > I ask as tar.gz is a pain in the backside. This cannot be denied. But then > I use Linux on all my home PCs and almost never use them for software > installation. > > For my mind, using DEBs or RPMs from central repositories is a FAR FAR FAR > superior way of managing your software than the Windows method of downloading > random files from random sites, each of which use a random installation > routine! This is especially true with upgrades. I can upgrade my entire > Ubuntu box with complete ease. > > However it requires a user to be told "this is what you do with software". > > But lets be honest - this is not a Linux thing. When I first tried to > installed software on OS-X, I got completely thrown and that's probably the > easiest installation method going! It wasn't that it was hard - just that no > one told me what to do. > > So software companies either do everything like Windows because "everyone > knows what to do", or they do something which may be better but which people > have to learn something new. > > > >> >> >> >> From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk >> [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Alun Rowe >> Sent: 04 August 2009 12:36 >> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk >> Subject: Re: [backstage] Fwd: [Autonomo.us] Skype, out? >> >> >> >> >> Ask a genuine user to install some software on it. I know it¹s a LOT >> better than it used to be but my dad still couldn¹t do it. >> >> Alun >> >> >> On 04/08/2009 11:31, "Brian Butterworth" <briant...@freeview.tv> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >>> 2009/8/4 Alun Rowe <alun.r...@pentangle.co.uk> >>> >>>> ... >>>> Mere users don¹t stand a chance with anything Linux based. It¹s far too >>>> geeky to use still. >>>> >>>> Your final pronouncement is interesting. 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