Just in case it wasn¹t clear, the discussion is about Local Radio only.
Local Radio isn¹t centralised in the same way that Network Radio is. As I
understand it Coyopa will benefit Network Radio initially. So this isn¹t a
wholesale replacement of Windows for Real, but a temporary loss of Real
during a period of re-organisation within Local.

I¹m not familiar with the URL obfuscation issues ­ perhaps it¹s fixing these
(rather than the format) which is the priority?

Gavin (Tech Lead, BBC Local)

On 04/09/2009 16:49, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Can someone from the Beeb clarify that the Windows streams will be *instead*
> of Real, as the implication of that article (and also a number of blog
> comments from James Cridland in the past) was that Windows Media streams would
> be in *addition* to the existing streams. From what I understand one of the
> big reasons behind the Coyopa project was that it's relatively easy for you to
> produce the same audio in multiple formats, so it seems a bit odd that you're
> replacing one format with another.
>  
> Certainly there's still demand for RealAudio - I'm regularly seeing several
> hundred people a day using the RealAudio listen again links and widgets on my
> site, and I'm pretty sure other similar sites like Beebotron must have the
> same if not greater traffic for their RealAudio links.
>  
> It's a particular problem with internet radios and mobile devices, as many of
> them don't support the AAC format you're now using for live streams and can't
> access the MP3 files you're now using for local radio Listen Again due to the
> content delivery system completely obsfuscating the URLs.
>  
> Andrew Dancy
> www.iplayerconverter.co.uk <http://www.iplayerconverter.co.uk>
>  
> (apologies if this appears twice - fun and games with gmail and their silly
> 'on behalf of' header)
>  
> 
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Gavin Johnson
> Sent: 04 September 2009 14:42
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing?
> 
> Ok so it turns out that a dual bitrate option will continue to be available,
> but in Windows rather than Real. So that link is temporarily broken while
> things are being moved around. There¹s some useful background here.
> 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2009/08/improvements_to_bbc_local_radi.
> html
> 
> On 04/09/2009 13:50, "Gavin Johnson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> As of Tuesday there is no longer a dual bitrate  option. It looks like
>> iplayer haven¹t caught up. Thanks for noticing, I¹ll  give someone a nudge
>> about getting the link removed.
>> 
>> Gavin
>> 
>> On  04/09/2009 12:43, "Paul Webster" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>> What has happened to the RealAudio feeds of the  local radio (BBC London in
>>> particular) Listen Again content?
>>> 
>>> As an  example
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0046fbf/Danny_Baker_03_09_2009/
>>> choose  the pop-out player - and then low bandwidth ...
>>> "Danny Baker: 03/09/2009  is unavailable at this time."
>>> 
>>> Paul Webster
>>> 
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