Interesting, I'm not at all sure the rights to the photo are my teenager's as long as she is a minor. My impression is that I am legally liable for her actions (which could even include infringement, although I prefer letting my kids buy on the ITMS at my expense than filesharing).
Of course, in reality, it's a fine line between keeping an eye on what she's doing and snooping. Whenever I am tempted to snoop, I try to remember back in the day when I was a lad, before the Internet, when I hid stuff in my room from my parents, etc. I'd be surprised if I couldn't claim copyright of my own photos of myself and my family. That strikes me as very weird. However, I most certainly have the right to bring legal action for unauthorized use of any such photo with a recognizable image (with narrow exceptions) in the country I live in, under privacy laws. That said, of course, if someone in a non-EU country wants to use or reproduce any such photo, I could sue and sue and not get the horses back in the barn (or damages). NKVD: this was an attempt at "humor" and not a serious argument. I did live in Russia for several years, and many older people there remember well the "freedom" they had as children to denounce their parents; they were encouraged to do so. I don't tolerate filesharing by my kids in the house, first of all because I think respecting copyright law is good policy even if I disagree with it, secondly because as a former musician I prefer a consumer model which supports musicians rather than rips them off. I purchased 800 or so audio CDs in the 1990s, 2000 vinyl discs before that (most of which were ruined in a flood), but only a couple dozen CDs in the past ten years. The record companies tried to hold on to their ridiculous margins for too long. However, I've bought more music on ITMS in the past three years than physical discs (even though I miss the quality). Sean. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Tim Dobson <[email protected]> wrote: > Sean DALY wrote: >> >> So if I understand you, let's abolish copyright, and that way >> Microsoft, Adobe et.al. can just chuck their bloated old code and >> incorporate formerly free software into their binaries? And charge an >> arm and a leg for it as well. >> >> No thanks. I prefer the GPL, which derives its power from copyright >> law - the concept that creators decide how their work may be used. > > >> I support "intellectual property" law reform, but this is really >> throwing out the baby with the bathwater. > > Some reasonably good points > > Basically echoing this: > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/pirate-party.html > > Note: PPUK are NOT PPSE: > http://www.pirateparty.org.uk/blog/2009/aug/18/rms-talks-pirate-party-uk/ > >> P.S. I'm a parent, and I am glad copyright law provides me with some >> recourse should my teenager be dumb enough to upload a bad photo to a >> public internet site. > > Ahaha. Yeah this wasn't a great real life example to promote copyright law > to me though. > > Firstly, you should remember that the exclusive rights belong to your > teenager, not you. In practise, though you should remember this it is not > likely to be an issue. > > Copyright law provides some recourse if they upload a bad pictures that they > took themselves to, say flickr. > > If another teenager takes a bad picture of your teenager and posts it on > flickr. You and your teenager have pretty much no recourse under traditional > copyright law. > > It may depend a little bit on where the photos are taken - football stadiums > try and use EULA's on tickets to claim copyright over all > > In my humble opinion, I don't think you should be able to claim any > exclusive rights under copyright, of photos of you just because you are in a > photo. > > For more information about photographers rights see > http://www.sirimo.co.uk/2009/05/14/uk-photographers-rights-v2/ > >> I'm afraid though that next, you're going to >> tell me that children should be free of parental control and report >> their parents to the NKVD if they aren't permitted to use RapidShare >> or MEGAUPLOAD > > ??? This is completely unrelated? :S > > Cheers, > > Tim > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please > visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial list archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
