Les Stott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 08/31/2005 07:41:49 AM:

> 
> >I have a half-dozen of these servers in place working very nicely. 
> >Removable IDE drives that get swapped weekly.
> >
> 
> What kind of setup are you using with removable drives? entire backuppc 
> directory lives on seperate partition, or only pool and pc directories?

The backup server has two drives:  a removable and a fixed.  The fixed has 
a single 4GB partition with a Knoppix-based install.  The removable is 
mounted to (from memory) /var/lib/backuppc.

> how do you manage it? stop backuppc, unmount, swap drive, remount, start 

> backuppc?

Close.  Shutdown, remove drive, restart, and run a script that reformats 
the new drive clean.  It's very much like changing a tape:  the new backup 
media is completely clean and ready to go.

I know that this undoes a great deal of the timesavings that BackupPC can 
give you for future backups.  I do not care.  My backup servers are only 
backing up file servers, not piles of client computers with thousands of 
identical files.  There is very little savings in the pool (leaving out 
future backups of the same box), and I greatly prefer treating the 
removable hard drives just like I would tapes.  I *like* forcing regular 
copies of these files onto multiple hard drives.

YMMV, of course.

> What happens when the changeover happens? if you did this 
> weekly would it mean that as soon as you swap and restart backuppc that 
> all clients attempt either a full or incremental?

A full.  Which is *exactly* how I want it.

THIS IS NOT MANDATORY!  If you didn't reformat the drive between inserts 
(like I do), you would have to back up a lot less data.  Again, I do not 
care.

> TIA for your insights :-)
> 
> >Except for an rsync problem with RHEL 4 (anyone else facing this?!?), 
it's 
> >working perfectly...
>
> I'm not sure about any rsync problems on RHEL4, can you elaborate? We've 

> always noticed that rsync falls behind on RHEL4 (in versions), along 
> with many other rpm's like spamassassin, perl etc. In most cases we have 

> built the latest rsync from source on RHEL4 and the like and all seems 
well.

I have built 2.6.6 from source, as well as at least two previous versions. 
 Same error.  I get an error that says that the child process terminated 
unexpectedly.  According to my examination of the source, it's because the 
TCP connection between the two is dropped.  I have no idea why, but I have 
two completely different servers, both running RHEL4 that fail in exactly 
the same way.  One was previously running RHEL3 with no problems, and I 
installed RHEL4 to a new partition and now it fails.

I don't think it's related specifically to rsync.  I think it may be more 
related to something else that is affecting the TCP session. 
Unfortunately, I can find nothing interesting in any of the logs on either 
box...  :(

So, for now, I'm backing up just the data using SMB.  Works, but not 
*nearly* as clean as my normal rsync solution.

I've asked for help on this one on both this list and a coule of others, 
but no one else has any ideas, and I've gotten very little feedback.  This 
is *not* unique to me, however.  There are others with simlar issues.  But 
no solutions.

Tim Massey



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