Cameron Dale writes:

> Craig Barratt said the following on 11/08/2006 1:47 AM:
> > Yes, the entire set of files is being transferred on an
> > incremental with a linux boot.
> 
> But why is this happening? What is the difference between Windows and
> Linux that would cause this?
> 
> > That means some meta data (eg: uid, gid, mtime, size) is being
> > delivered differently to rsync on windows vs linux.
> > 
> > It is quite possible that the uid and gid are different when you boot
> > windows vs linux.  
> 
> As I said in my post, this problem is easiest to see on the dual-boot
> machine, however it also is apparent on other machines.
> 
> Here is the backup listing for a Windows machine, where you can see that
> the number of files transferred after the first backup is quite small:
> 
>                        Totals                 Existing Files   New Files
> Backup# Type  #Files  Size/MB MB/sec  #Files  Size/MB #Files  Size/MB
> 0     full    800     676.7   2.23    87      47.4    795     629.3
> 1     incr    5       34.9    0.94    2       9.2     21      25.7
> 2     incr    5       34.9    1.20    2       3.0     8       31.9
> 3     incr    5       34.9    0.85    6       34.9    0       0.0
> 4     incr    11      35.4    0.96    4       19.3    17      16.0
> 5     incr    11      35.4    0.47    12      35.4    0       0.0
> 6     incr    11      35.4    0.91    12      35.4    0       0.0
> 7     incr    11      35.4    1.41    12      35.4    0       0.0

Yes, this case looks normal.

> Here is the backup listing for a Linux machine, where the incrementals
> are getting bigger and bigger each time:
> 
>                        Totals                 Existing Files   New Files
> Backup# Type  #Files  Size/MB MB/sec  #Files  Size/MB #Files  Size/MB
> 0     full    2350    5.3     0.35    397     0.1     2235    5.3
> 1     full    2633    5.7     0.38    2351    5.2     576     0.5
> 2     incr    14982   187.1   0.82    10703   36.1    5832    151.5
> 3     incr    14982   187.6   1.26    14944   159.7   47      27.9
> 4     incr    14984   187.9   1.24    14943   161.7   53      26.3
> 5     incr    15705   194.0   0.96    15650   166.6   370     27.6
> 6     incr    15705   194.9   1.05    15666   166.3   48      28.6
> 7     incr    15705   195.4   1.07    15670   167.2   43      28.3
> 8     incr    16207   197.4   1.37    16060   167.0   268     30.4
> 9     incr    16211   197.8   1.58    16172   168.9   57      29.0
> 10    incr    16240   201.8   1.54    16199   169.9   51      31.8
> 11    incr    16240   202.2   1.58    16202   172.0   48      30.2
> 12    incr    16241   188.5   1.47    16200   168.6   51      19.9
> 13    incr    16245   189.5   1.39    16201   170.7   56      18.9
> 14    incr    16251   190.6   1.27    16203   170.7   64      19.9
> 15    incr    16253   191.7   1.17    16213   171.0   53      20.7

What doesn't make sense is that the two fulls have a lot less files
than the incremental.  I suspect you setup a small test for backups
#0 and #1, then set it to backup a lot more prior to incremental #2.
Therefore each incremental is backing up a lot of files not in the
full.  You should start a full backup and then see what happens
with the next incrementals.

> > It might be related to file time stamps.  What type
> > of file system is this?  If it is FAT then you are likely a victim of
> > the DST problem.  Google "rsync FAT DST".
> 
> Nope, it's NTFS on Windows, ReiserFS on Linux.

My original claim still stands: on the dual boot system I
suspect the uid/gid or mtime is not returned consistently
when your machine is booted on windows vs linux.  Therefore,
if the last full was from windows, then a linux incremental
will backup every file again (and vica versa).  With rsync
not a lot of data will be transferred, but it will take a
lot more time.  I suggested you manually run rsync in each
case to see.

Bottom line: you are seeing two different issues here.

Craig

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