I wasn't asking anyone or everyone to change!!
It was a suggestion..
I subscribe to dozens of Forums - whilst NOT perfect ... all I said is I
prefer "Forum"
To Craige and Developers BackupPC will be something they get involved in
Daily.
For me and I suspect most others like any good application this will be
INSTALL & FORGET excercise. Yes, Lists and Forums are all about PEER SUPPORT
but I don't think I'm selfish only looking / answering when I've got a
problem and a reason to visit.
Earlier, I accidently sent a reply to Craige earlier when I meant to tell
the rest of the community that I got my problem thanks to Craige's help and
HOW I did it and I only knew when Craige asked me to reply to the list so
others can see the solution (this was my intention).
I know a List is not rocket science....(nor is Forum)
Being a relatively quick learner - I didn't reply to you directly only - I
also added the list this time round.
Now I've got BackupPC working as I would like - I will probably check once
in a blue moon or if 3.2 arrive before then (or I have another question /
problem).
However, with the list I suppose I would have setup a Rule or unsubscribe !
Sorry still like Forums.... can't see the Logic :)
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Holger Parplies <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Bharat Mistry wrote on 2009-04-10 08:28:32 +0100 [Re: [BackupPC-users]
> silly question - is there a Forum for BackupPC]:
> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Joe Bordes <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm willing to set this up if there is need.
> > > I personally like the forum a lot.
> > > Space and bandwidth is on me.
>
> well, your choice. Just don't pass on forum posts to the list. As has been
> said before, there is already at least one site that presents the mailing
> list archive contents as a forum and even sends back posts to the mailing
> list. While this is convenient for clueless users that don't know how to
> subscribe to the mailing list, the posts often tend to reflect this
> cluelessness and be disruptive to the original intent of this mailing list:
> letting users of BackupPC help each other in solving *real* problems
> (rather
> than quoting documentation to each other). My impression is that this type
> of forum post is increasingly ignored.
>
> There are valid reasons for using a forum interface to the mailing list,
> and
> it *is* possible to do so in a non-disruptive way, if you keep in mind that
> it
> is really a mailing list. It would be a pity if it became necessary to
> blindly
> blackhole all forum traffic (should be a simple exim postdata ACL ...).
>
> > > Bharat Mistry escribió:
> > >
> > > This type of mailing list is very hard to follow
>
> Sorry, but just how do you suggest following this in a forum? Sure, you can
> wait till a thread is two weeks old and then read it. Separating new
> messages
> from old ones is something my MUA does for free. And while I get a threaded
> view, I can still see all messages at once, which is particularly
> convenient
> when there are three or four threads from one person to different aspects
> of
> the same problem (as is currently the case).
>
> You prefer a forum? Fine. But mailing lists are not, per se, harder to
> follow.
>
> > I use Gmail and have setup a filter for BackupPC as suggested by others
> but
> > I still find list very disorganised and I still think a forum is far, far
> > superrior.
>
> I think you are mistaken in the assumption that people would post in a more
> organized fashion if you were to view the results through a forum
> interface.
> If you're asking all of us to switch to a forum, that's ridiculous. People
> answering question go wherever they choose. People asking questions go
> wherever they get the best answers (or rather, they need to live with the
> answers they get wherever they go). Simple. And fair enough. You get what
> you
> pay for.
>
> > With forums you can have different areas for:
> >
> > Installation
> > Howto
> > General
> > Bugs / Issues
> > Development
> > Feature Request / Wish List
> > Further split up into versions
>
> True. You can do the same with mailing lists. You get the same
> disadvantages
> in both cases. "Where does my question belong? Oh, I'll just put it
> everywhere
> that might be relevant." "My installation question turns out to be a bug
> (or
> vice-versa). What now?" "Nobody answered my installation question, but
> there's
> a lot of traffic on the development channel, I'll go there instead." "I've
> got
> a howto question and a feature request. Do I need to write almost the same
> message twice?"
>
> We just haven't got enough volume on this list to warrant splitting it up.
>
> I think the structure you're describing fits to a Wiki or FAQ rather than a
> mailing list. Guess what - we've got a Wiki and an FAQ. Some people just
> don't
> look there before asking here, which somehow makes me think they don't like
> to
> search through a complicated structure like yours.
>
> > Much better than the current mess.
>
> Well, for a start, let's add an [OT] to the subject. You see, if there's a
> mess, it's not in the infrastructure, it's in the usage.
>
> Regards,
> Holger
>
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