On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 19:01, RC <cool...@gmail.com> wrote: > Jon Craig <cannedspam.cant <at> gmail.com> writes: > >> as for attitudes yours isn't one that inspires people to spend time trying to > support a marginal OS from a company that has a poor track record with the > open > source world. > > My first (perfectly polite) post got completely ignored. Nothing has changed > my > opinion that this list appears to be for complete beginners. I haven't seen > anyone provide any useful technical information that I don't already know from > my own few hours investigating BackupPC. Your own comments, where you presume > to educate me, aren't providing any new information, either. > Maybe you better explain what you know and what you've tried so we are not forced to go over ground you may already have covered.
>> Your casting of stones at the architecture of BackupPC is in incredibly poor > taste given your demonstrated level of skill. > > You're welcome to point out how I have, in any way, demonstrated any lack of > technical competence, other than the mere fact I'm not a major Perl hacker who > can instantly jump into and fix bugs in an unfamiliar project. > Your very first post calls BackupPC's methods fragile and complains about a documented requirement of the login process. >> For your information BackupPC does not send full and partial backups in the > sense of traditional backup software. > > I'm well aware of that. "Full" backups (checksumming the ENTIRE filesystem), > however, are an obscene waste of time and resources for no good reason, that > CAN > be eliminated for the reasons I've already stated. Network bandwidth, disk > space, etc., are not my predominant concerns. The time it takes to run a > "full" > backup on a multi-terabyte server is extremely prohibitive. Several > commercial > backup solutions (CDP-type solutions in particular) only do a full backup > once, > and NEVER again. rsync is perfectly capable of doing something quite close to > this. There's no reason BackupPC shouldn't be able to take advantage of this > as > well, if it simply dropped the legacy full/incr mentality. > Maybe my education is lacking. Could you explain to me how rsync avoids checksumming the entire filesystem without using file timestamps to include / exclude files and how backuppc's full/incremental behaves differently. Despite my efforts to lightly chastise you for your tone and attitude I have been offering those solutions short of a rewrite of the application. Are you living with specific security requirements? Did you try setting rsync and the login shell? What result? Are you considering setup of VPN? As another thought, you wouldn't need a full VPN if you simply wish to encrypt the backup traffic. You could re-work the client connection process so that it makes a call to the client via ssh, creates a point-to-point socket, and then starts rsync as a daemon using this socket. You could then transfer everything using encrypted ssh while avoiding the login noise. I'm sorry if my impressions of your attitude are incorrect. I'll stop commenting about this if you'll start providing more information about what you've tried, and what your willing to live with. If the only thing your willing to live with is a rewrite of the entire system so that it behaves in a way you "believe" it can and should then I for one am done. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances > and start using them to simplify application deployment and > accelerate your shift to cloud computing. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev > _______________________________________________ > BackupPC-users mailing list > BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net > List: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users > Wiki: http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net > Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ > -- Jonathan Craig ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev _______________________________________________ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki: http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
