And that's why I advise my clients to close their Microsoft Lookout when they go for the evening.
On 12/20/2010 2:33 PM, hans...@gmail.com wrote: > Nothing will properly handle backing up files currently being written > to during the backup session without inserting itself somewhere > between the OS and the disk/controller hardware. > > COTS "hot imaging" programs (Symantec's (recent versions of) Ghost and > BackupExec System Recovery are examples) do this pretty reliably now, > but they create large monolithic disk image files that don't take > advantage of BackupPC's magical file deduping. > > I handle this by making sure that always-on apps like Outlook (and in > your case SQL servers) store their files to the OS/apps partition - > and these get backed up separately from the regular data files, via CD > or PXE boot allowing a proper "cold" imaging backup. With decent > network bandwidth and good automation, most clients can get backed up > in a 20-30 minute session - I do this weekly, and each user knows > which day of the week they're supposed to do it - most set the session > running and get their coffee first thing in the morning. > > An alternative would be having such apps storing their data on > filesystems with snapshot capabilities, e.g. LVM on a Linux server. > > I realize that none of these approaches are easy or inexpensive, but > AFAIK that's the nature of the beast. > > Whatever path you take, make sure to test it thoroughly with realistic > scenarios. > > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:59 AM, Ryan Blake<rbla...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> That sounds simple enough and something I found initially when doing my >> research. However, I do not believe this also can handle open files, such >> as Outlook's .pst files or other documents open by the user, such as system >> files. I want to be able to back up all of these files without the end-user >> having to actually do anything on their part and being able to remotely >> install the software. End result: I want to be able to restore the entire >> OS just as it was the moment it was backed up. >> >> Maybe I'm mistaken, though. Will this option backup open files as well >> (including the ubiquitous Outlook data files)? If not, what options do I >> have to do this? It seemed so much easier working with rsyncd on *nix... >> From: Rob Poe >> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 12:32 PM >> To: General list for user discussion,questions and support >> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Need help with automating Windows client >> deployments& handling the file lock backup problem with open files >> Personally, I use a batch file to install the client. You have to configure >> the rsyncd.conf and rsyncd.secrets >> >> Using this download: >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/backuppc/files/cygwin-rsyncd/2.6.8_0/ >> and these instructions: >> http://gerwick.ucsd.edu/backuppc_manual/backuppc_winxp.html >> >> >> @echo off >> c: >> md c:\rsyncd >> net use x: \\server\utils >> xcopy x:\rsyncd\*.* c:\rsyncd\*.* /Y >> c: >> cd \rsyncd >> cygrunsrv.exe -I rsyncd -e CYGWIN=nontsec -p c:/rsyncd/rsync.exe -a >> "--config=c:/rsyncd/rsyncd.conf --daemon --no-detach" >> cygrunsrv.exe --start rsyncd >> >> rem Les Stott notes you can setup the WinXP firewall to allow >> rem port 873 TCP connections to rsync with the following script >> rem lines. Remove the rem lines to run these three commands. >> rem >> rem netsh firewall set allowedprogram program = c:\rsyncd\rsync.exe name = >> rsync mode = enable scope = CUSTOM addresses = LocalSubnet >> rem netsh firewall set portopening protocol = TCP port = 873 name = rsyncd >> mode= enable scope = CUSTOM addresses = LocalSubnet >> rem netsh firewall set icmpsetting 8 enable >> >> >> >> >> Ultimately, I am trying to automate the update process to end-users as much >> as possible (which is why I used smb to start with). I'm looking for >> something I can remotely install and have backup all directories, including >> those currently locked and also including live Microsoft SQL databases >> without the bandwidth cost of SMB and while backing up open files (I >> essentially want a backup good enough that I can use to restore the entire >> "system state," which includes active system files). I know from my >> previous experience, I was able to successfully backup a MySQL database on >> Linux and restore it when the entire database was "accidentally" deleted. I >> just am not too confident with Windows and how to do this properly while the >> DB is still running. >> >> ________________________________ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Lotusphere 2011 >> Register now for Lotusphere 2011 and learn how >> to connect the dots, take your collaborative environment >> to the next level, and enter the era of Social Business. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/lotusphere-d2d >> >> ________________________________ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> BackupPC-users mailing list >> BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> List: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users >> Wiki: http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net >> Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Lotusphere 2011 >> Register now for Lotusphere 2011 and learn how >> to connect the dots, take your collaborative environment >> to the next level, and enter the era of Social Business. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/lotusphere-d2d >> _______________________________________________ >> BackupPC-users mailing list >> BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> List: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users >> Wiki: http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net >> Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Lotusphere 2011 > Register now for Lotusphere 2011 and learn how > to connect the dots, take your collaborative environment > to the next level, and enter the era of Social Business. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/lotusphere-d2d > _______________________________________________ > BackupPC-users mailing list > BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net > List: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users > Wiki: http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net > Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lotusphere 2011 Register now for Lotusphere 2011 and learn how to connect the dots, take your collaborative environment to the next level, and enter the era of Social Business. http://p.sf.net/sfu/lotusphere-d2d _______________________________________________ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki: http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/