Les Mikesell <lesmikes...@gmail.com> wrote on 10/06/2011 01:21:29 PM:

> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Timothy J Massey <tmas...@obscorp.com> 
wrote:
> Personally, I feel that compression has no place in backups.  Back 
> when we were highly limited in capacity by terrible analog devices 
> (i.e. tape!) I used it from necessity.  Now, I just throw bigger 
> hard drives at it and am thankful.  :) 
> 
> No, it makes perfect sense for backuppc where the point is to keep 
> as much history as possible online in a given space.

No, the point of backup is to be able to *restore* as much historical data 
as possible.  Keeping the data is not the important part.  Restoring it 
is.  Anything that is between storing data and *restoring* that data is in 
the way of that job.

Obviously, there *are* things that have to go between it:  a filesystem to 
store the data, for example.  But if I can avoid something in between 
storing my data and using my data, I absolutely will.

Compression falls in that area.

>  If you have 
> trouble with compression, just throw a faster CPU at it.  Just 
> anecdotally, I saw 95% compression recently on a system where 
> someone requested including their web content directory and forgot 
> to mention the 40Gb of log files that happened to be there.

That's all well and good.  My issue is *NOT* performance.  Or capacity, 
for that matter.  I'm not saying that there is no value to compression. 
I'm saying that my objective for of a backup server is FIRST to be as 
simple and reliable as possible, and THEN only to have other features. 
Features that detract from that first requirement are considered 
skeptically.

This entire thread is a *PERFECT* example of why I have my reasons.  I 
have avoided an entire category of failure simply by throwing more disk at 
it (or by having a smaller "window" of backups).  Seeing as I have, at a 
minimum, 4 months of data (with varying gaps between the backups) within 
the backup server itself, and archive data in long-term storage every 
three months, I have what I (and my clients) feel to be enough data. Extra 
capacity would have no value.  Extra reliability *always* has value.

YMMV, of course.

Timothy J. Massey

 
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