I'm not sure all of this is warranted.
I haven't tried the code, but looked at the patch over dinner and his
changes in Lib.pm are in a place such that dumps and restores should use
them just fine. I think Steven's taken care of the helper utilities that
doesn't use Lib.pm too. The premise is sound. And I don't see any see any
reason it shouldn't work.
I'm not sure if curious enough to test the changes, but I don't think it's
fair of Holger to try to silence him.
Abe.
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Holger Parplies <wb...@parplies.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Les Mikesell wrote on 2013-03-15 10:47:34 -0500 [Re: [BackupPC-users]
> Per-PC pools]:
> > On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Tyler J. Wagner <ty...@tolaris.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >> I for one can't imagine why he wouldn't come here with his problems.
> After
> > >> all, he received such a warm reception this time. ;-D
>
> that's not the point. This is the *BackupPC users* list, not the
> I-applied-a-wild-hack-against-your-advice-so-please-help-me-now list.
> There would appear to be somewhat of a consensus that we don't like the
> idea, so why would we help with something that is clearly no longer a
> BackupPC matter?
>
> > > I am also not happy with the snarky responses lately. "I don't
> understand
> > > why you are doing this, but I'll judge you for it." "I didn't read your
> > > patch, but here's why it can't possibly work, or will set your head on
> > > fire, or will become a time bomb you should vaguely fear."
> >
> > Note that those came _after_ the OP asked for advice, got it, and then
> > complained that he didn't like it...
>
> Yes, but sometimes they come earlier, especially when a stupid question is
> asked via Backup Central, or rather, when a question is asked in a stupid
> way.
> That was not the case here, clearly.
>
> I must remark, though, that the OP is potentially doing great harm and
> *ignoring hints to stop it*, so I'm extremely likely to get unfriendly
> towards
> the end of this post.
>
> > > I'm here because I'm a BackupPC user and I want to both learn and help
> > > others.
>
> Right, and that includes people just reading this list or possibly only
> single
> posts they find via google. "Hey, I always wanted to split up my pool,
> because
> it doesn't fit on a single disk. Look, here's a patch that does that. Let's
> try it out."
>
> > > I hope the rest of you feel the same. Even if you can't imagine
> > > someone's use case, and even if you disagree with it, there is no
> cause for
> > > incivility.
>
> I can imagine the use case, and I tried suggesting alternatives (as did
> others). The response was "I've already considered everything else and
> ruled
> it out". So, he doesn't want advice. Then again, he's asking for it. That
> is
> simply irritating.
>
> > It isn't a matter of not imagining this use case - it is going beyond
> > and imagining if something goes wrong, or if you had to take over as
> > a replacement sysadmin where someone had made one-off changes like
> > that and even if they work you won't be able to get any help
> > understanding or maintaining them.
>
> Yes, and there is no indication the OP has thought about that. There's
> only "I
> know what I'm doing, trust me" type of statements. Still, it's not our
> problem. It's well meant but unwanted advice.
>
> > But, it doesn't pay to be thin-skinned or to take technical advice
> > personally in this business.
>
> Right. You're talking to coders, not diplomats. If you prefer diplomatic
> advice to technically sound advice, then that's perfectly ok, but this is
> simply the wrong place.
>
> Stephen Joyce wrote on 2013-03-15 12:34:24 -0400 [Re: [BackupPC-users]
> Per-PC pools]:
> > V2 of the patch (unified, per request, even though there is no real
> > standard for diff/patch) attached, if anyone cares.
>
> Let me be very clear. I URGE YOU TO NEVER AGAIN POST POTENTIALLY HARMFUL
> CODE
> ON THIS LIST. Ok?
> Your code is of interest to *noone* except yourself. If someone should
> really
> happen to have a similar problem and seek a similar solution, then he can
> ask.
> I'm quite sure he will be pointed to you (if he will not be discouraged),
> and
> then you can explain to him the prerequisites your code requires, which I
> somewhat doubt are documented. No, that's not a request for V3 with
> included
> documentation.
>
> Regards,
> Holger
>
>
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