Well, this basically reinforced my hate for Windows.   I killed the backup; and 
that’s left my C drive inaccessible, even to recovery processes.    So, I’m 
reinstalling Windows; with the pain that entails.

 

I DO have a partial backup that I’m kinda hoping will be useful; but, this is a 
real pain.

 

One question I have about VSS – once I have that set up, isn’t that “enough” of 
a backup?   Why would I then want to back up using BackupPC?  Or am I missing 
something?

 

Thanks!



Clay

 

 

From: Michael Stowe <michael.st...@member.mensa.org> 
Sent: Friday, January 1, 2021 5:16 PM
To: cl...@n7qnm.net
Cc: 'General list for user discussion, questions and support' 
<backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Windows (rsyncd) Backup issues

 

Window's file semantics are such that files are usually opened in exclusive 
mode, and therefore not available for other processes to read -- in practice, 
this means that processes which don't test and account for the possibility that 
another process has a file open will simply hang and wait for the file to be 
available.  In the case of many Windows system files (e.g., the registry) these 
files will never be open.  So if one sets up BackupPC/rsync to simply back up 
all of C:, for example, it will never finish, because it cannot.

The Windows solution for this is what's known as a "shadow volume."  
Effectively it's a dynamic snapshot of the filesystem accessed independently, 
that sidesteps Windows file semantics and is used for most backup solutions 
that need to deal with files that may be in use by other processes.  BackupPC 
has a DumpPreUserCmd which can be leveraged to create the ephemeral volume 
shadow copy, and DumpPostUserCmd to delete it.

One implementation of this sort of thing is available in winexe and ssh flavors 
here:  http://www.michaelstowe.com/backuppc/

 

On 2021-01-01 15:52, cl...@n7qnm.net <mailto:cl...@n7qnm.net>  wrote:

OK – I'm reasonably good at Linux; but, "know enough to be dangerous" about 
Windows.     Can you expand a bit?  

 

Thanks!

 

 

From: Michael Stowe <michael.st...@member.mensa.org 
<mailto:michael.st...@member.mensa.org> > 
Sent: Friday, January 1, 2021 11:32 AM
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Cc: cl...@n7qnm.net <mailto:cl...@n7qnm.net> 
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Windows (rsyncd) Backup issues

 

We'll probably need a few more details than that to provide specific help, but 
the symptoms you describe are consistent with not running rsyncd on a shadow 
volume.

On 2021-01-01 09:02, cl...@n7qnm.net <mailto:cl...@n7qnm.net>  wrote:

Just started (trying to) use rsyncd to back up a Windows 10 laptop.    It's 
been running for over 18 hours AND has locked my entire C:  drive so I can't do 
anything else.

 

Help?

 

Clay Jackson

 

 

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