George King wrote at about 12:58:47 +0000 on Thursday, January 6, 2022:
 > Thanks, useful to know your approach.  Like you I would be worried about 
 > cables (USB or power) disconnecting and the potential unreliability.  
 > However.... it got me thinking and some Googling shows that there are 
 > ways of using RPis with SATA - so that may be a future backuppc project 
 > for me!
 > 
 > Using an RPi4 with a SATA hat: 
 > https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/12/08/rock-pi-sata-hat-targets-rock-pi-4-raspberry-pi-4-nas/

It seems like this is really a SATA-to-USB card so that IMO, you still
have the potential flakiness of a USB controller plus you lose speed
in converting to USB and then to SATA.

> 
 > Using an RPi Compute Module 4 with PCIe SATA cards: 
 > https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2021/raspberry-pi-os-now-has-sata-support-built
 >  
 > 

This with a true SATA PCI Express card seams (to me) like a better way
to go...


 > On 05/01/2022 21:59, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote:
 > > George King wrote at about 21:20:24 +0000 on Wednesday, January 5, 2022:
 > >   > Sorry if I'm breaking protocol by asking a follow-on question not
 > >   > directly associated with the original but I'm interested in your hard
 > >   > disk config with a RPi4.  Do you have all your storage as USB hard
 > >   > drives working from the 2x RPi USB3 ports? RAID or non-RAID? I notice
 > >   > you say that it is only one of your backup servers so you may have a
 > >   > more distributed back up approach.
 > >   >
 > > My primary backup is btrfs RAID-1 SATA (2 8TB-drives, but <1TB used
 > > for BackupPC) on my Ubuntu home Dell server.
 > >
 > > My secondary backup is on a RPI with a 1TB external Samsung SSD on a
 > > btfs filesystem (no RAID). It is slightly slower than my Dell server
 > > but has been rock solid.
 > >
 > > I think the RPI4 is a good way to go -- though I'm not sure I would be
 > > comfortable with external USB RAID due to danger of disconnecting the
 > > cables accidentally and messing up RAID sync.
 > >
 > > BTW, I am really enjoying btrfs since it has built-in checksum so that
 > > I can tell if there is FS corruption (haven't had any yet) and if
 > > there is an issue with RAID, it can use the checksum to know which
 > > drive to rely on to recover.
 > >
 > >> I've thought about RPis for a backuppc use case but never gone there
 > >   > because I was thinking I would need SATA and RAID (I'm currently using 
 > > a
 > >   > monolithic 14Tb RAID6 arrangement) that (I thought) really needed a
 > >   > motherboard.  Keen to get some power saving though as the RPi4 probably
 > >   > has enough juice to do the job itself, if only with respect to the
 > >   > processor and the USB3 ports.
 > >   >
 > >   > On 05/01/2022 18:02, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote:
 > >   > > One one of my backuppc servers (running on a RPI4), I get the
 > >   > > following daily error:
 > >   > >
 > >   > >     2022-01-05 01:05:49 Running BackupPC_rrdUpdate (pid=968)
 > >   > >     2022-01-05 01:05:49  admin-1 : ERROR: unknown data acquisition 
 > > function ''
 > >   > >     2022-01-05 01:05:49 Finished  admin-1  (BackupPC_rrdUpdate)
 > >   > >
 > >   > >
 > >   > > And running 'rrdtool dump /var/lib/backuppc/log/poolUsage.rrd' gives
 > >   > > the same error:
 > >   > >      ERROR: unknown data acquisition function ''
 > >   > >
 > >   > > If remove '/var/lib/backuppc/log/poolUsage.rrd' and run
 > >   > > BackupPC_rrdUpdate manually, the problem goes away
 > >   > >    #rm /var/lib/backuppc/log/poolUsage.rrd
 > >   > >    #sudo -u backuppc uBackupPC_rrdUpdate
 > >   > >    RRD updated: date 1641427200; cpoolKb 0.000000; total 
 > > 14345328797.155273; poolKb 0.000000; pool4Kb 0.000000; cpool4Kb 
 > > 736297088.000000
 > >   > >
 > >   > > And 'rrdtool dump /var/lib/backuppc/log/poolUsage.rrd' runs without
 > >   > > error.
 > >   > >
 > >   > > It seems that somehow the rrd file (poolUsage.rrd) got corrupted...
 > >   > >
 > >   > > Not sure what caused this... but
 > >   > > - It might be helpful to add a more descriptive/helpful error message
 > >   > >     to BackupPC_rrdUpdate as this was not simple to track down
 > >   > >
 > >   > > - Regardless, hope this helps others who may be encountering this 
 > > error
 > >   > >
 > >   > >
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