On Tuesday 17 July 2007 15:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi to all:
> 
> Immo, the route plan presented by Kern is the way to go if we want
> Bacula expanded in the Enterprise world ( and again, immo, I'm
> absolutely convinced that today Bacula fits well in this scenarios, with
> some new features will be the #1 ).
> 
> Things are changing and Bacula is in the good place and in the good
> instant to explode as a good Backup Enterprise Solution. Only take a
> look to the prices of each installation/maintenance/agents for other
> commercial solutions. 
> 
> For example, oracle agents ( and depending on the provider, this agents
> has a very basic features ) price ranges from 500 € to up ( normally
> 600 ). If you need 10 agents ( 6000 € + ¿10%-20% each year ? ) + price
> for the server software and number of systems to protect +¿10%-20% each
> year ?...

Yes, that is very typical of what I have seen in vendor pricing and heard from 
users.  In our case, were the Oracle agent a simple script or embedded in 
Bacula source code, it would be free.

Just off the top of my head without any committment: were it something that 
required a lot more work, perhaps there would be a one time fee of 500 € for 
any number of agents, with upgrades available at 20%.  

> 
> How much disk storage / tape devices can you buy with less than 50% of
> the money that you should spend with the closed provider?
> 
> 
> 
> > I definitely was in that category. We had/have several licenses for a
> > commercial product but the license structure (which I consider a form
> > of extortion) and total lack of free technical support (even for bugs
> > with their software) were the the main reasons for looking for other
> > alternatives.
> 
> 
> With the creation of a company, and the well done work with Bacula, you
> can give to potential customers the solution to is needs. In fact,
> customers wants 2 things: The product must do what you say that it does,
> and, when having problems, a telephone number to call and say 'I've this
> problem and I need to solve it NOW!'
> 
> I'm talking about SERVICE. You can get money for the process of customer
> solution design, implementation, maintenance, hot support and Training.
> And all of this with a less expend for customers than closed solutions.

Yes, and perhaps the support fees could be even less than for closed 
solutions, since they have you locked in, they can pretty much charge what 
they want.  What *is* clear is that the license fees + support fees 

We aren't locking anyone in.  The Level 2 support will be provided by the 
market palace rather than by us.  With commercial software, often Level 2 
support is provided by the software vendor.


> 
> 
> My two cents
> 
> Best regards
> 
> D.

Thanks :-)

> 
> 
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