On Friday 14 September 2007 12:50, Michael Short wrote:
> Seems fair, though it is worth mentioning that the installer could be made
> automatic for regression purposes (to prevent clobbering any kind of
> production installation). 

That is certainly possible but would be a significant amount of work.

> At the moment the regression scripts reinstall 
> bacula as a service anyways.

I didn't know that.  I'm a bit surprised since it is not necessary to run it 
as a service to do the testing.

Regards,

Kern

>
> Sincerely,
> -Michael
>
> On 9/14/07, Kern Sibbald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Friday 14 September 2007 00:46, Michael Short wrote:
> > > While doing some further tests on windows I began to realize that there
> >
> > is
> >
> > > no reason why the regression scripts should use the source for any kind
> >
> > of
> >
> > > testing. The code is compiled on a completely different platform and
> > > copying the entire source tree to a different machine/vmware seems like
> > > more work than it should be. Perhaps the win32 regression scripts could
> >
> > be
> >
> > > configured to use the nsis installer to setup the regressions instead
> > > of actually copying the binary files from
> >
> > bacula/src/win32/installer/release.
> >
> > > This way doing regression testing would be as easy as copying
> > > winbacula-*.exe to a directory and running a batch script.
> >
> > Why is copying the entire source tree then running a batch script any
> > harder
> > than coping winbacula-*.exe, installing it, and running a batch script?
> >
> > There are a number of reasons why we use the full source:
> >
> > 1. Normally getting the regression scripts and the source that are up to
> > date
> > are a matter of doing one time at the very beginning:
> >
> >    svn checkout <bacula-source> bacula
> >    svn checkout <regress-source> regress
> >
> > then before every regression:
> >
> >   cd bacula
> >   svn update
> >   cd ../regress
> >   svn update
> >
> > very simple, and can be done by a script.  This ensures that you are
> > running
> > on the current source.
> >
> > 2. The source code once built provides a nice reasonable test set of
> > files for
> > backing up and restoring (i.e. it backs up and restores itself).  It is a
> > known size and a known number of files, and in a known location, so there
> > is
> > no twiddling with scripts to point to the correct FileSet, and there is
> > no searching to find FileSets that are a reasonable size -- not too small
> > and not too big.
> >
> > 3. The regression scripts do not use a production environment, and if
> > used carefully can be run on a production machine -- I run my biggest
> > regression
> > tests on my production backup machine.  To do this requires a special
> > non-production installation.
> >
> > The same svn procedure could be used on Win32 to update the source and
> > update
> > the regress scripts, but there is one problem and that is that the
> > released
> > version of Win32 is cross-compiled on Linux, so for doing Win32 testing,
> > one
> > still must pass via a Linux machine to get everything 100% current.
> >
> > If you have to copy winbacula-*.exe to the Win32 machine, I don't see
> > what is
> > hard about copying the whole directory tree.  With a Samba mount to a
> > Linux
> > machine, you can script the Win32 machine to automatically pull down a
> > pre-build directory.
> >
> > > The only issue with using the installer is that the installer cannot
> > > install everything without user intervention.
> >
> > I believe that it can since it has command line arguments, but that does
> > not
> > resolve the above problems.
> >
> > > Perhaps the installer could
> > > be configured to accept user-arguments which specify the different
> >
> > install
> >
> > > modes and options. This would solve a number of problems for Win32
> > > regressions and also include testing the installer as part of the
> > > regression tests.
> > >
> > > Let me know if I am not being reasonable with this :P
> >
> > I don't see that your proposal really solves much other than doing some
> > testing of the installer.  Regardless of whether you pull a full
> > directory (the whole source tree) or only winbacula-*.exe, you must pass
> > by a build on
> > a Linux machine.
> >
> > In face, it seems to me your proposal will significantly complicate
> > things --
> > read on for the reasons...
> >
> > The disadvantage of what you are suggesting is that you cannot do
> > regression
> > testing on a production machine or one that has a FD installation.  In
> > addition, you would have to make some modifications to the current
> > scripts so
> > that the multitude of .conf files that the regression scripts use could
> > be installed in the right places on the Win32 machine, which is far from
> > simple
> > since the directory paths of where the conf files are installed are
> > dependent
> > on the OS version and the language it is configured for.  The current
> > regression tests pull everything from a single file.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Kern
> >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > -Michael

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