Ah, very nice link.  Thanks.  

On Friday 25 November 2005 20:32, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
> I think you both would be best served by taking a look at the admin
> guide. Not only are there screenshots in it, but an explanation of how
> processes that I've never used work as well.
>
> If you need anything more specific (perhaps something weakly pictorially
> demonstrated in the manual), let me know.
>
> http://ovweb.external.hp.com/lpe/doc_serv/
>
> Click on Data Protector, then the various manuals show up. The Admin
> Guide would probably be most helpful .They're all in PDF.
>
> The way the left pane is handled is with icons with a [+] next to them
> ones that are expandable, like in Windows explorer. The behavior is as
> you described, except that information shows up in the right pane even
> as you click on some of the objects that can be expanded (like I said
> before, media, or pools, etc.).
>
> One thing that you can't intuitively do in data protector is see the
> filesets and files on a particular media. This is hidden off in a
> different section, and IIRC, you really can't even see that well until
> you attempt to try a restore. Otherwise, you can scan a tape to see
> what's on it. However, the catalog knows all this stuff so I don't see
> any reason that you shouldn't be able to go down to info on an
> individual fileset and then browse files.

This left pane with the contents in the right pane like a browser is a very 
interesting concept. To implement it, the hard part is pulling the data out 
of the database.  Nearly everything you would want to know about what is 
backed up is in the catalog -- it is just a question of finding a nice way to 
display the information.  Currently, most of the information in the catalog 
is available to the user, but the interface is very poor and the data is 
handed out in little pieces with no general overview as you woud get with a 
browser like structure ...

>
> Hope this helps -- happy holidays!
>
> Kern Sibbald wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >This idea sounds very promising for organizing the GUI and how to present
> > the info.
> >
> >I know it is a bit of a pain, but a couple of screen shots could help us
> > with the details a bit.  E.g. does clicking on one of the different
> > categories on the left expand it, then when you reach the bottom, does it
> > show the information in the right window much like a file browser?
> >
> >On Thursday 24 November 2005 05:12, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
> >>HP's Data Protector is reasonably well designed on a very basic level.
> >>More interesting/difficult functionality is very poorly designed, but at
> >>far as interface goes, it works reasonably well.
> >>
> >>What they did was to include several different trees on the left side
> >>for each category of object. Clicking on the category name (ie. media)
> >>would do the equivalent of list pools in the right pane. Clicking on a
> >>pool would do the equivalent of a more brief form list media pool=blah,
> >>and clicking on a volume would show all of the info on the volume (ie. a
> >>slightly more detailed view of list media, but with only the tape in
> >>question).
> >>
> >>The same was done when delving into schedules. Filesets were lumped into
> >>schedules, however, there was a template section that could be about the
> >>same.
> >>
> >>Hope this helps. I could take screenshots, but I think the concept
> >>should suffice.
> >>
> >>Lucas Di Pentima wrote:
> >>>Hi people!
> >>>
> >>>I'm trying to contribute to the bacula project by making a graphical
> >>>user interface, and I would like to ask you if you have any example of a
> >>>well designed user interface for a backup software, so that I can get
> >>>some ideas from it. If you can make some screenshots, they'll be very
> >>>welcome!
> >>>
> >>>Best regards,
> >>
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