Hmm, that's too bad about your FC5 experience.  I've been running it here
for a couple of months without any of these issues on an AMD 64 machine.  I
also upgraded from FC4.  Granted I don't have any printers attached to it
all my printers are network attached.

As far as the compiler is concerned, I don't think that is really the fault
of Fedora.  The compiler folks have just improved? the optimization.  One of
the drawbacks of increased optimization is you need to make some assumptions
about the code.  While those assumptions may be valid with some code it
isn't valid with others and the compiler tells you not to use those
optimizations.

Adding -fno-strict-aliasing should eliminate most of those warnings and make
the code more stable.

What Window manager are you using with X?  I haven't had any problems with
gnome but I don't think KDE is as well tested.

The only issue I've ever been able to attribute directly to redhat was a
change they made to mtx that is definitely busted and doesn't work with some
tape drives but I think it was also in FC4.

I'll take a look at the st driver changes between FC4 and FC5 and see what
they've done.


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern
Sibbald
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 7:09 AM
To: bacula-announce
Cc: bacula-devel; bacula-users
Subject: [Bacula-users] Bacula version 1.38.10 released to Source Forge

Hello,

[...Release Information Removed....]

Fedora FC5 warning !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have recently upgraded a number of my machines (fortunately not my web 
server) to FC5, and I can say without reservation that it is the most 
unstable RedHat/Fedora system that I have ever seen.   Among my gripes:

- The new GNU C++ compiler spews out tons of warning messages for Bacula
  mostly concerning "type punned pointers and strict anti-aliasing
problems".
  It is now necessary to be a rocket scientist before even considering using
  the GNU C++ compiler :-(
- If I attempt to configure my printer, cups consumes every byte of
available
  space on my / partition continuously logging the same authentication error
  message.
- All "lpr filename" output gets printed in Landscape rather than Portrait
  (programs such as OO and browsers that explicitly set the orientation do
  print correctly).
- At random all my Window borders disappear requiring me to abort X
otherwise
  there is NO window management.
- The Bacula storage daemon gets a lot of errors of the following kind:
     Matou.2006-06-13_03.05.00 Error: block.c:538 Write error at 71:0 on
     device "HP DLT 80" (/dev/nst0). ERR=Device or resource busy.
  which is absurd; there is only one file descriptor open, how can it be
  busy on a write request?
- While running the SD under gdb debugging this problem (which IMO is a
kernel
  driver bug), the OS hangs.  An OS hang while running gdb, you got to be
  kidding, I haven't seen that for 5 years -- cool guys!
- The FC4 to FC5 upgrade fails in numerous ways, often leaving you with a
  system with half FC4 rpms and half FC5 rpms (this happened on several
  systems).  Trying to upgrade a half FC4/FC5 system is not fun, because
  nearly every way you turn, you have unresolved dependencies ...

In short FC5 is a *BAD* release, and if you are on FC4 and considering
moving 
up to FC5, I would recommend reading over my list of woes before making any 
decision.

Concerning the FC5 rpms. Scott is not yet running an FC5 system (good choice

Scott), so I am going to make the FC5 rpms, but given the general lack of 
stability, I am not sure when or how I am going to do it.

I'd sure like to get back to programming, and starting to wonder if it is 
possible to upgrade from FC5 to FC4 ...

-- 
Best regards,

Kern

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[ReleaseNotes] I
          Release Notes for Bacula 1.38.10

  Bacula code: Total files = 423 Total lines = 139,479 (*.h *.c *.in)

Warning for version 1.38.8 and greater:
- The Windows FD no longer automatically folds the case
  in wild-card comparions. To get the same behavior as before,
  you must explicitly use "Ignore Case = yes" in your FileSet.
- Backslashes are no longer permitted in File directives
  (typical error for Windows users), unless the string is
  enclosed in double quotes, in which case, the backslashes
  must be doubled.

Major Changes for 1.38.10:
- This is a primarily a bug fix release, with the following bugs being
  resolved #570, 609, 611, 613, 614, 617 as well as other bugs not
  reported in the bugs database. See below for details.
- The bconsole "reload" command should now work properly in virtually
  all situations thanks to the efforts of a number of people (Eric,
  Christopher, and myself).
- There is an untested fix to eliminate the scheduling problems (either
  no job run or the same job run twice) during sudden clock shifts (daylight
  savings time change).
- The manual has been released under the GNU Free Documentation License
(FDL).
  The major difference is that this removes the prior restriction on
  commercial reproduction of the manual.
- Fixed a race condition (thanks to Christopher) on dual processor machines
  that caused jobs to block when starting with the SD.

New features for 1.38.10:
- None

Fixes for 1.38.10:
08Jun06
- Modify setting ACLs to suppress error message if the file is a
  symbolic link since the file linked to may not yet be created,
  and symbolic links really should not have attributes ...
06Jun06
- Complete implementation of acl.c error message during restore.
  During backups, errors getting acls are silently ignored, as was
  previously the case.
04Jun06
- Modify configure.in to check for typeof().
- Better detection of postgresql installation if pg_conf works.
- Fix RescheduleTimes = 0 bug (should not reschedule).
- Down port from 1.39: fixes for reload, autochanger error messages,
  scheduler fixes for reload and day light savings change,
01Jun06
- Implement partial error messages for src/filed/acl.c
- Fix return code to fail when doing update barcodes and
  Pool resource is not found. This previously caused Volumes
  to be labeled as cleaning tapes.
- Small updates to projects file.
26May06
- Prevent DVD code from rewriting label if the device cannot be
  opened read/write.
- Fix Dir/SD run race in migrate.c, verify.c, and restore.c
- Update projects file.
24May06
- Applied patch posted by Jaime Ventura to bug #570 to correct failure
  of restarted jobs to complete (due to a destroyed pthreads conditional
  variable used by the message thread).
- Fixed bug #619 where Bacula would not restart jobs with MaxRestartTimes
  set to zero.
- Apply patch from John Goerzen bug #611 to fix bad manual links in the
code.
- Apply patch from Rudolf Cejka bug #614 to removed trailing
  colons in query.sql file.
- Apply patch from Rudolf Cejka bug #613 to correct prunning of files
  not to create orphans.
- Apply patch from Rudolf Cejka bug #617 to use mtime instead of ctime
  in restore long listing.
- Apply patch from Rudolf Cejka bug #609 to use MarkId in verify.c instead
  of incorrect MarkedId.
- Apply patch from adioso bug #616 to correct text in manual (replace
  Director with File daemon).
21May06
- Move DIR "run" command to SD before starting the message thread
  as suggested by Cristopher Hull to avoid a race deadlock from
  two threads using the bsock structure.
- Modify LICENSE to correct some problems pointed out by Debian.
05May06
- Correct EOF with no \n lex.c problem.
- Add additional INFO messages if autochanger cannot be used.
- Add Eric Bollengier's lex error handler fix, which corrects most
  of the reload problems.



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