On Wednesday 28 June 2006 21:14, Joshua J. Kugler wrote:
> On Wednesday 28 June 2006 05:02, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> > Searching for a new distro is not so easy. Kubuntu treats users as idiots
> > by disabling the root account and giving full sudo privilege to the main
> > user.
>
> Well, I suppose...but I've found it quite easy to adapt. I suppose you
> could say it is more "Mac-ish," in that you have admin accounts that can do
> priv'ed operations, but really, it is the way sudo was designed. And you
> can always do "sudo bash" :) Trust me, I do that quite often.
>
> > Ubuntu won't boot on a relatively modern (1.5 years old) machine.
>
> Well, in the classic "works for me, YMMV" tradition, I have to say I've
> been thrilled with Kubuntu. It's installed on a few-month-old Acer AMD
> Sempron system on my desktop, and has been rock solid. I think I've only
> had to kill X once, and never have I had a hard freeze. Running with an
> nVidia 6600 video card, and a Via chipset motherboard.
> I'm sorry to hear
> you've had trouble. What kind of errors does it throw? Or does it even
> get far enough to throw the errors?
I never had any problem loading Kubuntu. I'm just not comfortable with their
philosophy of how to setup a Linux machine. Their philosophy is probably
quite reasonable for desktop use and for dealing with inexperienced users,
but for "old-timers" like me, I don't have the patience to deal with a
different way of using security/root.
I did have problems loading Ubuntu. I forget what it was, but basically the
ISO images would not load on my machine -- a bad sign.
>
> > Debian is
> > great on stability and security updates, but has really old software. If
> > you use Debian testing, you get good stability and recent software but
> > "currently" (they are in the process of changing) no security updates.
>
> Agreed...It'll be great when they start doing security updates for testing.
Yes, at that point, they may get another person converting his desktop.
Though the more I see of SuSE, the more I am impressed. I had thought it
would not be suitable for server applications because of the lack of SELinux,
which I run on my server. SELinux is, however, *extremely* complex and it is
not easy to write rules for it. On the other hand the SuSE AppArmor
*appears* to accomplish the same thing in a much simpler way and for the most
part using automated tools. I still haven't found a technical paper on how
AppArmor really works, so this is an open research subject for me.
--
Best regards,
Kern
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