Hi, 25.06.2007 23:35,, Kern Sibbald wrote:: ... > Here is a nice quote I found the other day that is may be appropriate -- > though I don't want to imply that any Bacula users are ingrates:
Oh, I try to be as polite as possible :-) More seriously: I don't think Mario was whining, but rather is worried about his data (which is a reasonable approach to data in most cases :-) and my answer was supposed to be give him a hint of what *not* to do when he wants progess on that project. ... >> Regarding dump as an alternative: While dump is available and reliable >> for many file systems on many operating systems, it's output is far >> less portable than what Bacula produces, and it's not available for >> quite a number of real-life filesystems at all - *these* are a major >> problems for me (and many others, I think). > > You should read what Linus has to say about dump! I don't remember his exact > words but something to the effect that "yes, it seems to work, but if you > really understood kernel caching, you would realize that it cannot work and > that one day you will get burned." That's paraphrased. I think that's close to the actual words... but I understand that Linus tends to use strong words. Also, I don't know if for other OSes the same would apply. For example, I would trust the BSD people, or sun, to implement their UFS in a way that can reliably be dumped. Also a by the way: As far as I know, there is no dump for ZFS, and there are good reasons for that... > By the way, aside > from tar, dump is the major component of Amanda :-) One of the reasons I don't like Amanda. > I wonder when the Zmanda > VCs will realize that they spent $13 million for dump technology that Linus > says is destined to break :-) amusing (at least to me). I'm quite sure they know, but they know a bit about markeing. Or rather, the management they installed for Zmanda does. Anyway, my impression still is that there is *no* perfect backup tool in existence (but we're working on it ;-) Arno > Kern -- Arno Lehmann IT-Service Lehmann www.its-lehmann.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
