On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 17:21 +0000, R.I. Pienaar wrote:

> > > - or use zmanda + LVM to back up your data with bacula pulling the
> > > backups from your DB servers to your tape
> > It seems cool, but reading from the zmanda site it seems that it support
> > tape drives. why do I need bacula, too?
> 
> there are 2 products, Amanda - thats like bacula kind of, a general
> ebackup solution.  Zmanda thats a perl script specifically for backing
> up mysql and nothing else, it creates files that you should then move
> to your backup storage using either Bacula or anything else like it.
> 
> Zmanda is aware of LVM, hot copies and all sorts of things and usually
> just does the right thing, if your OS support snapshots it will use
> them etc, well worth investigating and makes a good partner to bacula.
OK
now I got it. thanks

> > In fact, we have huge tables, so it's better to restore files. We
> > dropped the idea of backing up db (full) weekly and replication log
> > daily (incremental) because it take a long of time to restore a single
> > table.
> 
> will you be happy then to take the DB you are restoring to offline
> during the restore? You would need to do that for this kind of
> restore.
In fact we dropped that idea because of the downtime caused by a single restore

> Sounds to me though that LVM with hourly snapshots will be a great win
> for you, you make hourly snapshots on each server and when a dev makes
> a mistake you put the last hours back.  and you can just use the
> snapshot made at midnight and ship it off-machine using bacula.\
Yes, I think it's the best way, but I've to convince my group. It's a
big implementation work, on 30 systems in production providing services
to a lot of customers. Downtimes not admitted :S

> Might be a big enough win that reinstalling servers becomes viable.
> With that many servers I guess you already have it automated anyway.
Automated backup? ehm... I've arrived here 1 month ago, and this is the
situation I found: We have 10 MySql cluster chains with 1 master, 1
slave and 1 "report" used only for backups (3 times the same data). A
cronjob stop mysql "Report" instance and tar-gzip data in mysql
directory, then it copies the result on nfs mounted export on a remote
storage. A Full backup for day. Now They are running out of space, so we
need to move to a better solution to save space keeping a quick response
time to restore request. Using LVM snapshot we could save a lot of space
and eliminate the third copy of the data. And reduce backup times, too.

Thanks a lot for your answer.
Diego


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