I recommend that you, all of your family over the age of twelve to fourteen ,
depending on their sensitivity, your friends, neighbors and
everyone over whom you have influence, see this movie as soon as you can.
There is a lot of violence in V For Vendetta, just as there was a lot of violence
in The Patriot. An honest portrayal of revolutions is of necessity like that. When people neglect their responsibility
to preserve their freedom and tyranny results, there is no moral or rational choice except
to deal with it directly. Remember that rebellion against tyranny is obedience to
God. Most of the violence in this excellent movie is obviously "good" violence in the
sense that justice is being meted out to villains who need and deserve it and that
there is no alternative since the villains have destroyed the law (or tried to do so,
with temporary success until thwarted by the hero).
I believe that you will consider some of the violence which is
apparently not justified in a different perspective by the end of the film. However, I am being
intentionally vague in order not to ruin the story for you.
My only major objection to this great film is that it was not set in the United States.
The resistance to tyranny by the tragic hero, V, and his colleagues is definitely L/libertarian,
not to mention the very creative and innovative methods which he uses against the tyrant, Sutler (sp)?
and his henchmen and henchwomen. Among its many L/libertarian aspects is the magnificent
slogan, "People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of
their people." This should be our slogan and our goal and we should redouble our efforts while
we still have Constitutional, legal means to do so.
 
For life and liberty,
David Macko 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [libertarian-outreach] Libertarian movie?

David:
 
I MIGHT see it.  But I seldom pay more than a dollar to rent a movie.  So it may be a while.
 
I can't take too much violence anymore.  I RESENTED even being subjected to the violence in California, Reservoir Dogs and Heavenly Creatures, to name just a few.
 
Even leftists and conservatives are against the WORST forms of government abuse you seem to describe in V.  Leftists defend and accept THEIR bureaucrats/apparatchiks, rightists theirs (particularly the police/gestapo).  I don't see how it would move them away from their already statist-coercionist views and attitudes.  I suppose it may just re-enforce them.  Won't they just integrate into their present ideology and mindset.  What in this movie is DEFINITIVELY libertarian?
 
 Well, I guess I'd have to see it myself to answer that question. 
James

David Macko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I strongly recommend it to everyone over fourteen. If you have children under
fourteen, you might want to see it first. Fortunately, it is so good that I may see
it twice. About the only substantial criticism I have is that it was not set in
the United States.
 
For life and liberty,
David Macko
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [libertarian-outreach] Libertarian movie?

Joe:
 
No, I haven't seen V is for Vendetta, but maybe I'll check it out when it goes down to a dollar.  (I'm cheap/frugal).
 
Well, here's my usual negative contrarianism, but why would this movie "stir the masses" in a libertarian direction any more or better than Nineteen-Eighty Four, THX-1138, Shadow on the Land (TV ca. 1970), or any other of the dozens of dystopia movies made since film began?
 
There are all sorts of movies that can and do "stir the masses" in an very UNlibertarian direction, going back to Metropolis, The Grapes of Wrath, Gung Ho, etc., etc.  It's easier to stir the masses in unlibertarian directions because it appeals to the worst in people----mainly envy, vindictiveness and fear.  For every libertarian movie, there are a dozen evilly-well crafted statist ones that counteracts it.
 
I think our PRESENT situation is a very subtly camouflaged "totalitarianism".  It's suffocates and ever so slowly starves and strangles the spirit in a morass of smarm and banality.  It would be very, very hard to convey the sort of oppression we have in this country and throughout the world today.  Ours is a "very caring" totalitarianism.  Maybe some literary or cinematic genious will be able to achieve this some day.
 
I guess you've heard of "Miss Liberty" the review column associated with The Advocates for Self-Government.  They review a lot of movies with supposedly libertarian messages, or probably just libertarian "strains" in them.
 
Well, maybe VIFV will at least be entertaining.  I might check it out after it goes down in price a  bit.
 
James

  Somebody else (other than DM) wrote:
I was curious as to how many of you may have seen the new movie, V is
For Vendetta?  Whereas one could argue that it isn't Libertarian, it
is about the abusive practices of a totalitarian government and one
man's quest to get even and wake up his fellow coutrymen.  Even
better, it is based in part on some true history - Guy Fawkes -
Remember, Remember the 5th of November! I think in the future it may
be up to this sort of media outreach to stir the mASSES. I'd like to
hear some of your thoughts on the subject.



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