On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:57:57 -0600, Mark A. Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gilberto,
 
> At 05:19 PM 1/24/2005, you wrote:
> >>I guess one of the things which makes me say what I said, especially with 
> >>regard to prophets is the notion of sinlessness.<<
 
> However, sinlessness by what standard? Moses was allegedly called a murderer. 
> Some Christians accuse Muhammad of having been a pedophile. Ultimately, all 
> that matters is the divine standard relative to a particular place and moment 
> in time.

Gilberto:
Personally I don't see the above issues as requiring or suggesting
relativism. In the case of Moses one could argue that the death was in
self-defense. The issue of Muhammad and Aishah might be addressed by
pointing out that marrying a young woman, while atypical, is
ultimately not a moral issue.

> 
> >>There are a couple of different reasons for this idea, but I think that one 
> >>of them is that since God expects us to follow the prophets, the prophets 
> >>are supposed to act in ways worthy of emulating. Somehow their good 
> >>character helps us to recognize them.<<


> I did not accept Baha'u'llah based on His character. In fact, I knew next to 
> nothing about Him when I became a Baha'i in 1970. For whatever *reason*, my 
> heart responded to His claim, and I recognized His Station. However, in all 
> honestly, I can't remember the last time I ever thought about Baha'u'llah's 
> character.
> 

Gilberto:
That seems sort of odd.


Peace

Gilberto.

> >>Otherwise, what criteria would you use to pick Bahaullah over David Koresh 
> >>or Jim Jones or the Heaven's Gate people?<<
> 
> As I said, I am not much of an apologist. However, IMO, one should accept the 
> Soul and Spirit of the Prophet, not His historical personality (including His 
> character, etc.). At least that is how I see it.

How do you access the soul and spirit if not through the historical personality?


Peace

Gilberto
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"My people are hydroponic"

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