On 9/7/05, Susan Maneck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Gilberto:
> Why is that even an issue?"
> Dear Gilberto,
> I'm merely pointing out they really aren't a separate
> religion in any
> meaningful sense, they are more and appendage to Judaism.
I think it depends on what you mean exactly. Soem other examples which
come to mind are the Judaism of Ethiopian Jews, the Karites, Hebrew
Israelites, and other Messianic groups who make some attempt to follow
the Torah. In different ways they are dependent on and independent
from "Judaism". And the exact relationship probably depends on the
specific group and the individual.
> "I don't see what kind of "legitimacy" you are talking
> about."
> By that I mean no Jew would accept a "Jew for Jesus" as a > Jew. By the same
> token a Christian Noachide is a
> contradiction in terms.
I think Mark took the words out of my mouth on the first point. But as
to the second, I never said anything about Christian Noachides. But
Messianic Noachides is something different. I don't see why a Noachide
couldn't accept Jesus as a human (non-divine, not a member of the
Trinity) messiah.
> "So I don't see why it would be
> your business to decide whether their beliefs are "legitimate". They
> believe what they believe."
> I'm not commenting on their beliefs, I'm commenting on their religious
> identification. Just as someone who believes in Baha'u'llah should not call
> themselves a Muslim instead of a Baha'i, so one who believes in Jesus should
> not call themselves a Jew or a Noachide instead of a Christian. Otherwise
> the terms become meaningless.
I think it depends on the case.
Peace
Gilberto
--
"There are no poets"
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