firestorm wrote:
welll .yes. that's what the creation is...or isn't.

To me, "creation" is simply a name, a category, for the particular entities which God creates.
if any of this whatever about Hidden Mystery, Ancient Eternity of My Essence, 
yadydydaaa has an Author, then...yes. the cosmos--that is the perceivable part 
of the universe-- is a metanarrative about the Attributes of the One DEsiring 
to b Known...the Telling of a Story.

IMO, humans tell stories. Abstractions, like "the cosmos," are human constructions. The cosmos is a name which is applied to various narratives, especially those which attribute some sort of order to creation.

 as an academic of the alleys and fields i respond.....duh. yes. becuae if 
there isn;t One Governing Mentality then who reallly cares what some short 
persian with a great press agent and a bad lwyer said abou anything?
  it was like... so 5 minutes ago.

By a universal governing mentality, I mean the hypothetical universal essences which are imagined to be the forms of particulars.

i can make a dirct case, based on th avialabl story to converge present science and 
harmnies and whatever... th extreme violent rpaciousness of the tribe (feel free to 
ask, and what did al these Old Testament xyz-ites >do< to have all this smiting 
coming) was due to an exra y chromosome. such that many o the dudes were xyy, an 
random females were xxy, speciically ncluding maryam, thus her lack of interest i 
gneral boy/girl games untol thru stress she had a bad ovulation and produced  twinned 
eggs, x, and xy, he xy fixed to the uterine wall, th x was washed away.  and Isa was 
the Outcome.

Scientific "virgin births" are always female. Shoghi Effendi clearly stated that he was *not* referring to the scientific variety. The Virgin Birth of Christ is not scientific, and not historical; it is, IMO, sacred history. Its truth is relative to the narrative.

   2. since we know that scientifically eyewitnss accounts are not reliable, ther is no 
such thing as history as "fact" and we can get over it.

Histories are mirrors.

 i have been asserting this with compleat archimedean wobbblitude since my 
arival. the issue is then...relative to who...not what.

IMO, it is relative to the construction or the narrative. To make it relative to a particular individual would be to restrict the ability of a person to accept other, even contradictory, narratives.

 somwhere or other i have rad a provisional trnalsation of a Tablet in whiuch the 
Blessed Bauty Answers the question, ishmael or isaac? by saying something along the 
lines of "it depends when u ask, and both genesis and Qu'ran are True.

I have read it, too.

--
Regards, Mark A. Foster, Ph.D.  *  http://www.markfoster.net
"... the modern challenge is how to live with uncertainty. The
basic fault lines today are not between people with different
beliefs but between people who hold these beliefs with an
element of uncertainty and people who hold these beliefs with
a pretense of certitude." — Peter L. Berger, sociologist





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