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>>And there is a difference between being male and men or being female or women?
>
> To my mind, yes there is a difference.  I would use "male and "female"
> to refer to horses or dogs or plants.  I would use "man" or "woman" to
> refer to  human beings.

Yes, and males and females can be children or adults whereas men and
women cannot be. What I'm trying to say is I don't get the point of
Stephen's distinction.

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