The Baha'i Studies Listserv I find the idea of "reconnaissance" missions, in 624, quite amusing to say the least.
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Gilberto Simpson < [email protected]> wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > From “Fascist-Islamophobia”: A Case Study in Totalitarian Demonization - > Part 3 > > by Dr. Robert Dickson Crane > > > The true facts of this “notorious” event were quite different, and the > lessons to be learned from it were the exact opposite of Spencer’s > conclusions. This Nakhla episode is recorded in great detail in the > eight-volume Encyclopedia of Seerah, published in 1981 by the Seerah > Foundation of London, with a foreward by Abdullah Naseeef, then > President of King Abdulaziz University, beginning on page 567 of > Volume One. > > Shortly before the first major war between the Quraysh from Mecca and > the Muslims in Medina, known as the Battle of Badr in the Year 624, > The Prophet sent out eight reconnaissance patrols to monitor the > enemy’s movements. Four of them, known as sarayah (sing. sariyah), > were not accompanied by the Prophet himself, and four, known as > ghazawat (sing. ghazwah), were. Of the eight, with one exception, > no-one on either side was either attacked or killed. During some of > them peace treaties were made with local tribes. The single exception > was the sariyah with twelve men led by Abdullah ibn Jahsh. He was > carefully instructed to lead twelve men on a reconnaisance mission, > not a military action. Instead, he attacked a Quraish caravan passing > between Makkah and Ta’if and killed one man, Amr ibn al Hadrami, and > captured two others. > When he returned, the Prophet Muhammad condemned him and his > actions, because he had been told strictly to avoid all hostile > actions, especially since it was during one of the sacred months. > Jahsh tried to explain that he thought it was the last day of Rajab. > The Prophet then told him that, regardless, he had been ordered not to > engage in fighting. Therefore, the Prophet refused to take any of the > stolen goods, released the two prisoners, and paid blood money to the > relatives of the deceased. Since this history of the Nakhla as > recorded in the Sirah conforms with all the principles of the just war > doctrine embodied in the Qur’an, one must question how one can call > this the first Muslim raid of a caravan on Muhammad’s order and why > one would term this the origin of war as the essence of Islam. > > [end quote] > > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Iskandar Hai, M.D. > <[email protected]> wrote: > > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > > > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Gilberto Simpson > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> The Baha'i Studies Listserv > >> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Iskandar Hai, M.D. > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > >> > > >> > Oh, that's interesting. Someone from Atlanta steals your stuff. You > >> > can't > >> > find him. You just go and steal some stuff from a person who is > >> > traveling to > >> > or from Atlanta. > >> > >> First we aren't really talking about a modern metropolis so that's not > >> the right analogy. Its a tribal society so its more like a particular > >> street gang has a certain territory. They have your belongings and on > >> top of that, it is likely that your belongings are actually part of > >> the caravan and being sold elsewhere. So you interrupt the caravan to > >> a) prevent your belongings from being traded and b) to recoup some of > >> the loss. > > > > > > But, you don't know if you have the right guy. That's the point. You are > > just assuming. > > > >> > >> > The four months are regarded in a special category in Islam. Nether > did > >> > Muhammad abrogate the four months thing. Actually many of the > >> > pre-Islamic > >> > rite and rituals are carried over right into Islam. Besides, being > >> > deceitful > >> > is not terribly ethical behaviour. > >> > >> It's not clear what you are saying. Did the raids occur in Rajab or not? > > > > The Nakhlah raid was in Rajab and one of Abdullah ibn Jahsh's guys, > Ukkash > > ibn Mihsan had shaved his head, deceitfully. > > > >> > >> __________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto: > [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: send a blank email to > > mailto:leave-549413-68452.e157d5dc5efabb63696f251595c88...@list.jccc.edu > > Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to > > [email protected] > > Or subscribe: > > http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st > > Baha'i Studies is available through the following: > > Mail - mailto:[email protected] > > Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st > > News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st > > Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > __________________________________________________ > You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[email protected] > Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto: > leave-549417-2080565.74e62800577573ae18970b78170ff...@list.jccc.edu > Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to > [email protected] > Or subscribe: > http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st > Baha'i Studies is available through the following: > Mail - mailto:[email protected] > Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st > News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st > Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[email protected] Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-549420-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [email protected] Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[email protected] Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
