The Baha'i Studies Listserv Matt, No one said that it has been your fault or the fault of Muslims in general for what has been happening to Baha'is. You were arguing that I should respect all people regardless of their religious affiliations and you tried to say that is what my religion teaches us. As Iskandar said respecting people is different that respecting opinions or beliefs. I was born a Muslim and most my family members are Muslims. My mother is a Muslim and I love her dearly and have greatest respect for her, but I have no respect for her belief and I totally reject what she believes in. And I have told her that I am just a true Muslim.
Should I respect suicide bombers? I respect you and Gilberto as human beings. Here where I live in a Buddhist country, I fight for the rights of Muslims, and I have many Muslim friends. But after all I believe Muslims have not sincerely followed the teaching of their prophet. On 31/12/2010 1:21 PM, Matt Haase wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > No, that is not what I am saying. That is your knee-jerk reaction to > what I am saying. Everything goes back to the Iranian Baha'is. I am > sorry for what is happening to them, but it is not my fault. I speak > out, I do what I can, but it is not my fault. > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Firouz <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > > Matt, > > Please don't misinterpret the Teaching of my religion. Are you > saying I should respect the Iranian Islamic rulers for whatever > they believe and for whatever they do to my fellow Iranian > Baha'is, just because they are Muslims? Where have you found such > interpretations. If you want to discuss certain Baha'i Teaching, > please give a quote and then we will discuss it here. After all > here is a Bahai-Study list. And I don't believe everything that > Muslims believe is Islamic. Of course, out of respect, the Muslims > have the right to believe in anything they like to believe, but I > should not have any respect for their beliefs. Telling Muslims > some facts about their religions is not disrespect either. > > > > On 31/12/2010 6:46 AM, Matt Haase wrote: >> The Baha'i Studies Listserv >> Yes, you should respect all people regardless of their religious >> affiliations. Even if you think we believe in stupid things, your >> religion says you have to respect people of all religions. It >> doesn't say, "respect people of all religions, only if they agree >> with Baha'i teachings." And just fyi, I think the Baha'i Faith is >> a beautiful religion, and I am a Muslim. >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 3:59 AM, Firouz <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> The Baha'i Studies Listserv >> On 30/12/2010 1:13 AM, Susan Maneck wrote: >> >> My religion is Baha'i which teaches us to respect Islam. >> >> >> Dear Susan, >> >> Respecting Islam is not the same as respecting Muslims with >> whatever they believe as Islamic. I think these days what >> many Muslims believe is not the teaching of Islam, but mostly >> the teaching of some clergies or false Ahadith. Should we as >> Baha'is respect such Muslims with some distorted views of >> their religions. By not recognizing Baha'u'llah and this Day >> as the Day of God, Muslims have failed to be faithful to the >> Teachings of Holy Quran and Prophet Muhamad. What many >> Muslims believe today is some idle fancies and imagining. >> >> Best regards, >> Firouz >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: >> mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Unsubscribe: send a blank email to >> >> mailto:leave-549253-953325.e9a9b042dd227e4657deb0ff0d384...@list.jccc.edu >> >> <mailto:leave-549253-953325...e9a9b042dd227e4657deb0ff0d384...@list.jccc.edu> >> >> >> Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Or subscribe: >> http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st >> Baha'i Studies is available through the following: >> Mail - mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st >> News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st >> <http://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st> >> Old Public - >> http://www..mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> >> New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as:mailto:[email protected] >> Unsubscribe: send a blank email >> tomailto:leave-549381-51117.0c33fa62beb7a768b168eeaa91e9a...@list.jccc.edu >> Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Or >> subscribe:http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st >> Baha'i Studies is available through the following: >> Mail -mailto:[email protected] >> Web -http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st >> News (on-campus only) -news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st >> Old Public -http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> New Public -http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/> >> Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3348 - Release Date: >> 12/30/10 >> > > __________________________________________________ > You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > Unsubscribe: send a blank email to > mailto:leave-549394-953325.e9a9b042dd227e4657deb0ff0d384...@list.jccc.edu > <mailto:leave-549394-953325.e9a9b042dd227e4657deb0ff0d384...@list.jccc.edu> > Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Or > subscribe:http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st > Baha'i Studies is available through the following: > Mail - mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Web -http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st > News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st > <http://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st> > Old Public -http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > New Public -http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________ > You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[email protected] > Unsubscribe: send a blank email to > mailto:leave-549418-51117.0c33fa62beb7a768b168eeaa91e9a...@list.jccc.edu > Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [email protected] > Or subscribe: > http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st > Baha'i Studies is available through the following: > Mail - mailto:[email protected] > Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st > News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st > Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3349 - Release Date: 12/30/10 > __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[email protected] Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-549439-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [email protected] Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[email protected] Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
